Can you believe this?
She threw her little sons into the river, and jumped in herself. Unfortunatly, she survived, and only one of the babes were rescued, the other drowned.....
WOMAN THROW'S TWINS INTO MISSISSIPPI RIVER!!!
by little witch 6 Replies latest watchtower medical
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outnfree
Link, please?
outnfree
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little witch
Sorry Outnfree,
No link, I just saw it on television, but I am sure it is on the net news also.
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ashitaka
Wow. I wonder if this is another post-partum depression thing.
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Gopher
Dazed's link didn't work. Here is the local newspaper's story. This woman suffers from mental illness, but that probably won't be an adequate defense for what she did. Her friend partly blames the system for ignoring her until it was too late. Here goes:
http://www.startribune.com/stories/462/3975020.html
Mom of twins yearned to see a friendly face
Tony Kennedy and Paul Gustafson, Star Tribune Published July 8, 2003 BABY08 A D V E R T I S E M E N T A D V E R T I S E M E N T A D V E R T I S E M E N T In the minutes before Naomi Marie Gaines kissed her babies and threw them into the Mississippi River, she pushed them in a stroller up and down the Wabasha Street Bridge in St. Paul, yearning to see a friendly face or other single moms.
She wanted to join the Taste of Minnesota celebration on nearby Harriet Island, but instead she succumbed to the alienation she felt on the bridge. Suddenly, she wanted to kill herself and she didn't want to leave her twin 14-month-old boys behind in a hostile world.
That's what Gaines told police in an interview made public Monday in a second-degree murder charge filed against her in Ramsey County District Court.
Before heading for downtown, Gaines and the boys -- Sincere Understanding Allah and Supreme Knowledge Allah -- had been at a family picnic at Battle Creek Regional Park in St. Paul.
Sincere Understanding Allah and brother, Supreme Knowledge Allah Courtesy Kstp-tv The 24-year-old mother, whom rescuers pulled from the river along with one of her sons, appeared in court Monday afternoon but did not enter a plea in the death of Sincere Understanding. She is being held in the county jail in lieu of $500,000 bail, with her next court appearance scheduled for July 21.
About 50 friends and family members gathered Monday evening for a candlelight vigil on the bridge. They wore red and white ribbons, in memory of Sincere Understanding and in gratitude for the life of Supreme Knowledge. Heart-shaped balloons, red carnations, teddy bears and candles formed a small shrine overlooking the river where the mother and children were swept into the current.
Naomi Gaines Gaines' close friend Sheree Wilson wept as she tossed a red carnation from the bridge.
"This is for the baby," she cried. Wilson had visited with Gaines the night before the incident. "I love her so much," she wailed, as the summer wind carried the flower to the rapidly flowing water below.
Rhonda Ingram, a family friend, described Gaines as "a wonderful mother" but said the system had failed her.
"Naomi has been begging for help," Ingram said. She said Gaines had repeatedly asked for help for her mental problems. "They'd treat her for a week or two at a time, then give her her children back."
Gaines' friends said Supreme Knowledge is being cared for by his father, Khalid Allah. They described Gaines as a talented rap singer who was nicknamed "Pleasant."
County Attorney Susan Gaertner said at a news conference that "this crime is so incomprehensible . . . it defies understanding."
Friday night wasn't the first time Gaines caught authorities' attention by acting strangely with her children in public.
Gaines received psychiatric treatment last August after she was found wandering the streets with her four children "talking and singing nonsensically," according to court records.
A doctor who petitioned for a court order to hold Gaines at Abbott Northwestern Hospital said she was unable to care for herself. He diagnosed major depression with psychotic features after examining her.
At a Ramsey County court hearing Aug. 7, 2002, Gaines agreed to voluntarily receive treatment at the hospital and the Anoka-Metro Regional Treatment Center, if needed.
She also agreed, under a court order, to take neuroleptic medications, follow doctors' treatment and after-care orders, and abstain from alcohol and mind-altering substances.
A court order releasing her from those requirements was signed Feb. 11.
High standard
Gaertner wouldn't comment on Gaines' medical history, but she said she doesn't anticipate a successful mental-illness defense.
"There's a human reaction, 'She had to be crazy,' " Gaertner said. "But the law in Minnesota sets a very high standard [for mental-illness defense]."
Psychiatrists said Monday that a woman who would kiss her babies, tell them she's sorry and then throw them into a churning river could be suffering from psychosis or detachment from reality. The complaint against Gaines said she followed her boys off the bridge after removing her shirt and pants.
Dr. Michael Farnsworth, a forensic psychiatrist who works at the Minnesota Security Hospital in St. Peter, said factors that could make a mother more vulnerable to postpartum depression include being single, being young, being economically disadvantaged and having a history of mental illness.
Gaines told police that she felt like people on the bridge were staring at her and that someone whom she bumped into with the stroller reacted rudely. She said she "would rather be dead than live in a place where I'm not free to walk around, I'm not free to be who I am, I'm not free to see other moms out, single black moms with their kids, enjoying their kids."
She told police interviewers that she did not want to die quietly in her apartment without anyone paying any attention to her.
Gaines, a resident of St. Paul's McDonough Homes public housing project, was described by her next-door neighbor as a caring mother who spent a lot of time with her children. Besides Sincere Understanding and Supreme Knowledge, Gaines is the mother of an older boy and girl by a different father, said Tracy Buford, the neighbor.
"As far as I know, she is a sweet person," Buford said. "She lived alone with the kids, but she got a lot of help from her mother and sister."
Darrell Jones, a mutual friend of Gaines and Khalid Allah, the twins' father, said she had been acting a little strangely in the past two weeks, but not to the extent that he worried about her.
Jones said that he met with Gaines in the middle of last week about their music business, No Yo Role Entertainment, and that she seemed unfocused and "spaced out." He knew of her past mental-health problems and said he believes that rap music has been "a healthy way for her to express herself."
Jones said Gaines is a vocalist in the rap group NSL, or North Star Legends, which has performed in St. Paul and recently in Princeton, Minn. Her stage name is Naomi, but she also goes by "Pleasant."
Khalid Allah could not be reached for comment.
Jones said that he is a former roommate of Allah's and that the two men often cared for Supreme Knowledge and Sincere Understanding.
"They were like my little nephews," Jones said. "This is hard."
Staff writers Pat Doyle and Darlene Prois contributed to this report.
The writers are at [email protected] and pgus[email protected]" >[email protected] .
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Cassiline
She said she "would rather be dead than live in a place where I'm not free to walk around, I'm not free to be who I am, I'm not free to see other moms out, single black moms with their kids, enjoying their kids."
Gaines and the boys -- Sincere Understanding Allah and Supreme Knowledge Allah
She told police interviewers that she did not want to die quietly in her apartment without anyone paying any attention to her.
I guess she got her wish, and I dont see this as a suicide attempt yet a suicide gesture carried out on a busy bridge where she knew people would try to save her. Makes me want to vomit. This poor child named "Sincere Understanding Allah" is now dead because IMO his mother wanted some attention.
Yes, I read she has quite a history with mental problems, yet she was able to verbalize her feelings a little too well for dementia. The other part of the article which mentions she is a young woman trying to cope with raising 4 small children on her own also gets no sympathy from me. Birth control is out there and people choose NOT to use it. Creating a living enviroment which transends which many are unable to cope with.
Mothers who kill their children do not get any sympathy from me, period. There are too many other options such as the one which now allows you to drop your child off at the nearest hospital, with a 6 month time frame where there are no questions asked.
Cassi