Keep on ...........

by ISP 8 Replies latest jw friends

  • ISP
    ISP

    A poster who started another topic seemed to belittle the good work done by this board and other boards.

    We're not doing anything here but JERKING OFF!


    And was in favour of suing the pants of the WTS! Well I can understand that but hey, this is the real world!

    Hasn't all religion mislead, made false prophecies etc. Most belief systems start off with prophecies and stuff and when they don't work settle down to simple beliefs etc. The WTS is moving into this mode and will ease into the mainstream, I guess. Are they worse than others like Scientologists?

    The big legal problems for the WTS lie with its charitable status and the way funds, from different countries are fed through to Brooklyn in the guise of donations when in fact these are revenue from branches/publishers purchasing magazines. This sort of thing is more of a concern. It certainly was in France. The WTS do not deserve charitable status. They do not have any community programmes to help the homeless, handicapped etc. These battles will be fought by those who can afford it and can really hurt the WTS.

    Lets stick to what we are good at! Which maybe ‘Jerking off’ to some…….. but the internet eats at the WTS membership each and every day. It is a patient, controlled game we need to play. It is working so why change the game? It is the WTS that is need of some ‘big play’ or other!

    ISP

  • Carmel
    Carmel

    ISP,

    Hey maybe we could be in competition with the porn sites! After all, this is where I come to get my "jollies"!!

    caveman

  • Francois
    Francois

    Yes, yes. I know you all have a very valid point. Suing the WTB&TS seems nothing more than a very attractive chimera, and yes, there is a lot more going on here than jerking off. Actually, that reference is to a hilarious scene in "Blazing Saddles" but the humor didn't quite seem to come across, did it?

    I was for a time a member of the board of directors of the Children's Rights Council of Georgia. Our mission was to make the domestic law in Georgia more humane. After three years of hearing - over and over and over - stories of the most outrageous, unimagineable, rank injustices perpetrated in the name of the "best interests of the children," of testifying earnestly, but pointlessly, at legislative hearings one after another in committees that seemed determined to perpetuate what passes for justice in Georgia, I had to quit. Injustices, especially those that parade around like a trollop all tricked out in the color of law, seem especially corrosive on the soul, especially so since the incidence of hypocrisy is so high in those instances.

    I seem to recall that the only thing that provoked a frank expression of emotion, an outburst of rage, in Jesus was the hypocrisy and injustice of the money changers in the temple. And quite frankly, after four decades of witnessing the injustice, hypocrisy, and lies of the WTB&TS along with the deadly outcomes of their policies - I am from time to time provoked as well.

    Still, I think the point is well made that the WTB&TS is afraid of something, as Ray Franz has pointed out, or they wouldn't be taking defensive moves. And one thing is certain, it cannot be predicted with any accuracy what's going to be the final outcome when you go into a court of law. My grandfather used to say if you want to get screwed go to a courthouse; if you want justice go to a whorehouse. The WTB&TS is not invulernable, no matter how feverishly they attempt to portray themselves in that light.

    Examine what has happened to the tobacco industry in the last ten years. They have fallen from what was once considered their unassailable position, to now being forced by the courts to choke up billions of dollars. What made the change? A change in the public's perception and attitude, a change of culture, all based on accurate information. And it was the image in the public's mind of that group of tobacco executives testifying together in a congressional hearing, with straight faces, that tobacco is harmless and not addictive. The public just couldn't stomach that brand of sneering hypocrisy and blatant injustice any more.

    And as more and more people become informed through the good agency of bulletin boards like this, the more likely it is that - hiding behind the first amendment or not - the WTB&TS is likely to loose in court. Being a "religion" is not a bar to successful prosecutions. Witness what happened to Jimmy Swaggart, Jim Bakker, the Rastafarians, and various native American religious groups.

    The Borg know they're vulnerable, and it only remains for interested parties to ferret out that crack that so most assuredly exists in their brittle exterior and exploit it - like a vent pipe in a Death Star.

    If it is assumed the Borg is invulernable, their very public downfall will never happen. And I'm in favor of greasing their skids as much as possible, of exploiting each and every weakness until a fatal flaw is found. And it's not necessary to win a fantastic sum from them, it's only necessary to expose them to the searching light of truth revealing the dark shadow of evil that's so much a part of their very makeup; to hold them up to the very public ridicule, condemnation, and scorn they so richly deserve.

    The Borg's reaction to defection in its ranks has always been to clamp down on its membership - a totally and wholly human thing to do. And the result?

    "The more you tighten your grip, the more star systems will slip through your fingers."

    Francoise

  • patio34
    patio34

    I wasn't going to read this thread due to the crude phrase in the subject line. But it is a good thread. My request is to please refrain from the vulgarisms. If it is offputting and uncomfortable for me, it must be for some others too. So for wider readership, please keep it more neutral.

    I agree that the best 'offense' is just keep making known the truth about the WTBS. The net is making all such information easy to find.

    Patio

  • JW72
    JW72

    Patio, I don't mind u not liking 'offensive' words, but I wonder if that is truly YOUR opinion, or has it been installed by being a JW??

    Again, I have no problem with it, just wondering if it was YOUR TRUE FEELINGS on the subject....

    Admittedly, I get a bit awkward reading 'offensive' words, but I admit that it is due to being brought up a JW.

    I'd like to repeat that I don't mind refraining from 'offensive' language so as to not offend anyone here.

    Chris
    P.S The problem with JW's is that they prevent social interaction, that is the biggest problem I have with them, also so many people get 'brainwashed' so quickly and so fully that no matter how much evidence u give them, they will not SEE it!!!

  • Francois2
    Francois2

    JW, I can tell you that no matter how you phrase things, someone is going to be offended. And your observation about being brought up as a witness is very accurate.

    We are surrounded on all sides by the perpetually petulant, the professionally put-off, by those quick to take offense, the authors of policical correctness. Just a fact of life, exacerbated by a good, wholesome JW upbringing.

    No matter that 95% of males masturbate, and 87% of females do it, you certainly can't call it what it is. That's TOO much truth. And you certainly can't go around pretending to be superior if you're going to call a spade a spade.

    Francoise

  • ISP
    ISP

    Francoise said......

    We are surrounded on all sides by the perpetually petulant, the professionally put-off, by those quick to take offense, the authors of policical correctness.

    Is that the case? Can you quote examples? You might live in an intense neighbourhood! If you are referring to the exception taken because of the language you used in the other thread....I think those posters had a point....and you seem to have accepted that by removing the offensive language!

    I take the view that those who use expletives on the net are 'challenged' in one sense or another. (Thats being 'PC' about it!.........I could say more.) If you have the winning argument you don't need to use poor language like that. To say that those who are offended....it is because of JW conditioning is funny! That sort of language is regarded the same by the public generally....it is OFFENSIVE.

    JW, I can tell you that no matter how you phrase things, someone is going to be offended.

    That can be true........but by and large this is an anti-WTS forum...so to offend the sensibilities of posters here .......you have to 'phrase things' really badly..........hey you did!

    No matter that 95% of males masturbate, and 87% of females do it, you certainly can't call it what it is.

    I think you can call it what you like!......and in many cultures ....they probably have an amusing expression for it! For example 'shaking hands with the unemployed' is one I am familar with.
    So call it what you like ......but be careful if you are going to use it for name-calling because you need to make sure that those who you are calling are deserving of the name.......otherwise expect problems!

    That's TOO much truth

    Really? You are dealing here with people who are keenly interested in TRUTH.......and too much is never a problem!

    ISP

  • bajarama
    bajarama

    ISP,

    Why did you name this thread, "Keep on 'jerking off'", after your blasted others for using offensive language in your last post? I might have missed your point but on the surface it seems like a double standerd.
    I find it interesting that, these same people who are easily offend, will go to movies and listen to the actors swear up and down, and will laugh at their off color jokes. Beware to anyone who says anything offensive when the lights come on after the movie over.

    Truth comes in many shapes and sizes, learn to accept as many as possible. And to those who are still offended, I'd better not find you watching anything but G rated movies.

    Square truth, for a round world.

    bajarama

  • ISP
    ISP

    I was quoting Francoise below, who has ammended the subject title and content so as to remove the offensive words..........so I have as well otherwise people will not know what I was on about.

    Kind Regards

    ISP

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