Did Jesus have a pre-existence or was he fully human, begotten at his human birth.

by gavindlt 1 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • gavindlt
    gavindlt

    So when was Jesus begotten. Was he truly and wholly fully human. Did he exist in two states, part human part god. Was he part of the let us create opening statement in Genesis. Is the anti-Christ those who deny he came in the flesh, fully human.

  • TonusOH
    TonusOH

    I don't see how anyone can determine that. You're talking about what is, in effect, a magical being, capable of doing anything it sets its mind to. Jesus could have been a human puppet able to behave normally until god transplanted some part of his own consciousness into the body. Or he could have been a human puppet that god occasionally controlled remotely. Or he could have been the most advanced NI (natural intelligence- nothing artificial here!) to ever exist.

    I would even say that it isn't possible to determine how he was "begotten." Presumably, there was no physical act of sex, as god would not need so crude a method to inseminate a human woman. One can imagine that the same being who can wish an entire universe into existence would do the same in order to cause an embryo to magically appear in the uterine wall of Mary.

    And how would one explain these "states"? Has god ever been only half-god? How would that work?

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