Campaigners issue Jehovah's Witnesses abuse warning

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  • LevelThePlayingField
    LevelThePlayingField

    Source:http://home.bt.com/news/uk-news/campaigners-issues-jehovahs-witnesses-abuse-warning-11364008972682

    Victims of child abuse within the Jehovah's Witnesses may never see the perpetrators brought to justice unless the Government closes a loophole allowing criminals to evade justice, campaigners have warned.

    The Government has been asked to introduce mandatory reporting to police whenever an allegation of child sex abuse is made within the faith group.

    Currently, the so-called "two-witness rule" means Jehovah's Witnesses deal with allegations of "sins" internally and only investigate themselves if the claim is corroborated by a second testimony - something lawyers say is unlikely given that many victims are abused on their own, in private.

    Concern over the number of "hidden" victims has prompted campaigners to hand a letter to Downing Street calling on the government to take action.

    Victim Nick French, 43, who was abused by his stepfather Gary Moscrop from the ages of seven to 13, said introducing mandatory reporting would reduce the risk of paedophiles offending.

    The salesman, originally from Glasgow but who was raised in Brighton, claimed: "When there are institutions that have rules that protect paedophiles, then something really needs to be done about that.

    "When it's one word against another, they can get away with it. Certainly in my case, it just allowed him (my abuser) to become worse and worse in his criminal activities.

    "What a faith group like the Jehovah's Witnesses would say about child abuse is they still view it as a sin, rather than a crime.

    "In this day and age, as soon as a crime is reported it needs to go to the people who are qualified to deal with such a crime. It shouldn't be kept within the confines of society."

    Mr French, a father-of-two, waived his right to anonymity when Moscrop was jailed for ten years in January this year.

    He said: "What we want to do is highlight this and really petition government to make sure that faith groups - when they're aware of cases such as child abuse - contact authorities such as social services."

    The call comes after a landmark case in which a woman abused as a child by a Jehovah's Witness minister won £275,000 damages at the high court.

    Kathleen Hallisey, senior solicitor with London-based AO Advocates who represented the woman in court, said the Royal Commission investigation into institutional child sexual abuse in Australia revealed thousands of victims - and said she expected there to be hundreds of "silent" victims within the church in the UK due to the two-witness rule.

    She said: "I think it's a very difficult situation for government to intervene in private religious matters.

    "The way around that is to introduce mandatory reporting that in essence would mean the moment an accusation is made within the Jehovah's Witnesses, that would immediately be turned over to the authorities.

    "If there hadn't been the two-witness rule and the Jehovah's Witnesses had reported the allegation of child sexual abuse to the police, the great likelihood is that my client and many others would not have been abused by that same person."

    In a statement, a Jehovah's Witness spokesman said child abuse was a crime that occurred "in all sectors of society".

    He said: "Anyone who commits the sin of child abuse faces expulsion from the congregation. If such a person is serving in a position of responsibility, he is removed.

    "Any suggestion that Jehovah's Witnesses cover up child abuse is absolutely false.

    "We are committed to doing all we can to prevent child abuse and to provide spiritual comfort to any who have suffered from this terrible sin and crime."

  • Simon
    Simon
    In a statement, a Jehovah's Witness spokesman said child abuse was a crime that occurred "in all sectors of society".

    So their defense is "other people do it, why pick on us?"

    He said: "Anyone who commits the sin of child abuse faces expulsion from the congregation. If such a person is serving in a position of responsibility, he is removed.

    They do the same thing for people who simply say they don't believe the GB speaks for god. They claim that they are not punishing those they label apostates ... so they can't claim that same treatment is severe punishment for pedophiles (and vice versa).

    "Any suggestion that Jehovah's Witnesses cover up child abuse is absolutely false.

    We all know how untruthful the WTS can be. It is absolutely true and has been documented over and over again. They put image of the organization above welfare of children.

    One day that guy will leave and feel regret at the part he's played in all this.

  • DATA-DOG
    DATA-DOG

    Yep, a Pedo Elder is removed, but can then be re-appointed if the sin, or was it a crime, was committed "some years ago" and he gives evidence of God's blessing ( going to meetings with children and field service with children ) in his life.

    Of course he must have his name checked against the WTBTS Pedo-database that doesn't exist and the Branch ( Lawyers) will decide if he is a predator/sinner, or what it criminal??

    DD

  • DATA-DOG
    DATA-DOG

    Again, the WTBTS is screwed. They claim that Xians cannot obey any law of Caesar that violates God's laws. Geoffrey Jackson said that if reporting was mandatory, the WTBTS would have done it. This implies that the Government was a fault for not making the WTBTS do the right thing.

    Why can't the WTBTS do the right thing without being forced?? Or will they refuse to report in loyalty to God? They're screwed. They are reaping what they have sown.

    YAY!!!!

    DD 😊

  • LevelThePlayingField
    LevelThePlayingField
    You said it right Data-Dog, the GB need Caesar to tell them how to do what's right. They say they're in a "spiritual dilemma". Well, with everything that's happening in the last year, yes, they are in a spiritual dilemma.
  • The Searcher
    The Searcher

    "He said: "Anyone who commits the sin of child abuse faces expulsion from the congregation."

    Therein lies the corruption: the rape of a child or an adult is a sin in the Org's sick mind, - not a crime - the complaint of which cannot be accepted by Elders unless there are two witnesses to the event, and cannot be reported to the authorities by the Elders!

    Governments must compel mandatory reporting of such evil crimes!

  • OrphanCrow
    OrphanCrow
    "He said: "Anyone who commits the sin of child abuse faces expulsion from the congregation."

    But what about the children and potential victims who are not in the congregation? What about them? So what if the pedophile is expelled from the congregation?...the issue is only ignored, not resolved.

    I don't give a shit if the JWs disfellowship pedophiles - that action does nothing to address the crime of child abuse. Nothing at all. I am so sick of the JWs using the excuse "Oh, but we keep our congregation clean...we disfellowship them."

    That action does NOTHING. It is meaningless.

  • Zoos
    Zoos

    I've heard this excuse too:

    "It is not our job as a religion to imprison criminals."

    No one is asking them to take on the role of a cop, judge or prison guard. They are only being asked to turn the matter over to those qualified to handle the situation.

    WT policies aside, how can human beings, with an INBORN inclination to stop at nothing to protect a child - even one who is not their own - be so oblivious to what is a common sense approach to a molestation accusation? Any dirt bag on the street, if approached by a child seeking help over something like this, would IMMEDIATELY turn directly to the police... leading the child by the hand.

    How is it that the most righteous, loving people on the planet cannot grasp the simplicity of the correct response?

  • OrphanCrow
    OrphanCrow
    Zoos: I've heard this excuse too:
    "It is not our job as a religion to imprison criminals."

    That is true. It isn't their job. And that is why the JW judicial system is woefully inadequate and should never be accepted as a form of "dealing with the abuser".

    The JW judicial system does NOT address the issue of child rape. It is a bullshit excuse for ignoring the crime of child abuse.

    The JWs are such an insular group that they disregard the effects that disfellowshipping a child abuser will have on the larger community.

    Just imagine if a government agency was exposed for firing all their employees that had committed rape while on the job. If the rapists were only fired, and nothing else....the rapists are just expelled from the governement agency but still allowed to roam free in the general population. Would we accept that firing was the best solution to dealing with a rapist that worked for the government? Would that be acceptable...just firing and nothing else done?

  • Petraglyph
    Petraglyph

    I don't recall this 'landmark case' being discussed here:

    Jehovah's Witness ordered to pay more than £700k to child sex abuse victim in UK first

    £730k = US$ 1.1 million

    These cases are quietly going through the courts. $1 million here, $1 million there... and it all starts to add up.

    I noted in WT's submission to the Charity Commission they identified litigation as the first of their main risks.

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