An EASY question for JW's to start with!

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  • BoogerMan

    For any JW's who have joined here in recent times - or are just lurking - maybe you'd like to consider contemplating a couple of the "slave's" teachings.

    I posted the second question a few years ago, but am submitting it again for those who may have missed it.

    1) According to Scripture, what & when is the final war?

    w15 11/1 p. 8 - "Soon, God’s Kingdom will bring an end to these last days with the war of Armageddon. As noted earlier, those who perish in this final war will be those who refuse to “obey the good news about our Lord Jesus.” (2Thessalonians 1:8)

    But what does the Bible Really Teach? 🤣

    Revelation 20:7, 8) - "Now as soon as the 1,000 years have ended, Satan will be released from his prison, and he will go out to mislead those nations in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together for the war. The number of these is as the sand of the sea." Oops!

    2) According to Scripture, should Christians be witnesses of Jehovah?

    Dozens of scriptures say that Christians would be witnesses of Christ, while not one verse states they would be witnesses for Jehovah.

    (Matthew 10:18) ....before governors and kings for my sake, for a witness....

    (Mark 13:9) put on the stand......for my sake, for a witness to them.

    (Luke 24:48) You are to be witnesses of these things.

    (John 1:15) John bore witness about him, (Jesus)

    (John 5:37) And the Father who sent me has himself borne witness about me.

    (John 8:18) ...bears witness about myself, and the Father..bears witness about me.”

    (John 15:26, 27) ....bear witness about me; and you, in turn, are to bear witness....

    (Acts 1:8) ..witnesses of me in Jerusalem,.....the most distant part of the earth.”

    (Acts 9:15, 16) But the Lord said to him: “Go! because this man is a chosen vessel to me to bear my name (Jesus) to the nations as well as to kings and the sons of Israel. For I will show him plainly how many things he must suffer for my name.” (Jesus)

    (Acts 10:39) And we are witnesses of all the things he did.......

    (Acts 10:43) To him all the prophets bear witness....

    (Acts 13:31) .......These are now his witnesses to the people.

    (Acts 22:15) ...because you are to be a witness for him (Jesus) to all men......

    (Acts 22:20) ...and when the blood of Stephen your witness...

    (Acts 23:11) ....witness about me in Jerusalem,.....also bear witness in Rome.”

    (Acts 26:16) .....a witness .....................respecting me.

    (1 Corinthians 1:6) ...the witness about the Christ has been made firm among you,

    (1 Timothy 2:6, 7) ...this is what is to be witnessed to in its own due time.

    (2 Timothy 1:8) ....the witness about our Lord......(Jesus)

    (1 John 5:9) ....this is the witness God gives, the witness.....about his Son.

    (Revelation 1:9) ......bearing witness concerning Jesus.

    (Revelation 12:17) ....have the work of bearing witness concerning Jesus.

    (Revelation 17:6) ......and with the blood of the witnesses of Jesus.

    (Revelation 19:10) ....witnessing concerning Jesus...the witness concerning Jesus...”

    (Revelation 20:4) ...for the witness they gave about Jesus......

    The perfect Christ was assigned to be God's witness, and in turn, imperfect Christians were assigned to witness for Jesus Christ.

    (Revelation 1:5) "....Jesus Christ, “the Faithful Witness,”

    (Revelation 3:14) "....the faithful and true witness.."

    (Revelation 19:11) "And the one seated on it is called Faithful and True,.."

    Also, Christians were never told to do anything in/for God's name. The following verses show that Christ's name alone was always to be the priority for Christians:

    (Isa. 62:2) ...a new name.....Jehovah’s own mouth will designate. (see Acts 11:26)

    (Matthew 5:11) “Happy are you when people...say every sort of wicked thing against you for my sake.

    (Matthew 12:21) Indeed, in his name nations will hope.”

    (Matthew 10:22) And you will be hated by all people on account of my name,......

    (Matthew 18:5) …receives one such young child on the basis of my name receives me also.

    (Matthew 18:20) For where there are two or three gathered together in my name,....

    (Matthew 19:29) .......for the sake of my name......will inherit everlasting life.

    (Matthew 24:5) ...for many will come on the basis of my name,...

    (Matthew 24:9) .......and you will be hated by all the nations on account of my name.

    (Mark 9:37) ...on the basis of my name....

    (Mark 9:39) ….will do a powerful work on the basis of my name...

    (Mark 13:6) Many will come on the basis of my name,...

    (Luke 9:48) Whoever receives this young child on the basis of my name receives me also.

    (Luke 9:49) ….we saw someone expelling demons by using your name.

    (Luke 10:17) “...even the demons are made subject to us by the use of your name.”

    (Luke 21:8) ...for many will come on the basis of my name,...

    (Luke 21:12) ......brought before kings and governors for the sake of my name.

    (Luke 21:16, 17) .......and you will be hated by all people because of my name.

    (Luke 24:47) ...and on the basis of his name, repentance for forgiveness of sins would be preached...

    (John 2:23) .....many people put their faith in his name........

    (John 5:27) which all those in the memorial tombs will hear his voice..

    (John 14:26) But the helper, the holy spirit, which the Father will send in my name,

    (John 15:16) matter what you ask the Father in my name,

    (Acts 2:38) Repent, and let each one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ

    (Acts 3:6) In the name of Jesus Christ the Nazarene, walk!”

    (Acts 4:10) the name of Jesus Christ the Nazarene,

    (Acts 5:40) . . .and ordered them to stop speaking on the basis of Jesus’ name.

    (Acts 5:41) ....counted worthy to be dishonored in behalf of his name.

    (Acts 9:14-16) .....all those calling on your name.....he must suffer for my name.”

    (Acts 10:48) .....he commanded them to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ.

    (Acts 11:26) ..........the disciples were by divine providence called Christians. (not JW's?????)

    (Acts 16:18) “I order you in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her.”

    (Acts 19:5) On hearing this, they got baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.

    (Acts 21:13) ...but also to die at Jerusalem for the name of the Lord Jesus.....

    (Acts 22:16) ....get baptized, and wash your sins away by your calling on his name.’

    (1 Corinthians 6:11) ...been declared righteous in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ.

    (2 Corinthians 5:15) longer for themselves, but for him who died for them.

    (Philippians 2:10) that in the name of Jesus every knee should bend......

    (Hebrews 13:15) Through him (Jesus) let us always offer to God a sacrifice of praise, that is, the fruit of our lips that make public declaration to his * name.

    (Revelation 2:3) ....and you have borne up for my name’s sake...

    (Revelation 2:13) ......and yet you keep on holding fast my name,. . .

    (The name of Jesus was to be "publicly declared," not Jehovah. See 28 "witness" scriptures)

    Mr. Rutherford really chose the wrong name in 1931 for his re-branding exercise!

  • KerryKing

    Thank you, that's a very thorough list of verses!

  • TonusOH
    as soon as the 1,000 years have ended, Satan will be released from his prison, and he will go out to mislead those nations in the four corners of the earth

    What nations? Wouldn't the Earth be under the unified rule of god at that point?

  • Vidiot

    Just goes to show…

    …Earth has always been in a perpetual state of “The End”.


  • Sea Breeze
    Sea Breeze


    During the Millenium Reign people from all nations will visit Jerusalem. There will always be nation/ethenic groups.

  • blondie

    Comments in the past by the WTS (reporting not supporting)(see the qualifying words or phrases, evidently, "it would appear")

    2015 Evidently such nations are the product of rebellion against Christ’s administration

    2015 it would appear that such “nations” are the product of rebellion against his earth-wide dominion.

    Revelation book before 2015 (Note that the 2015 WT is not as dogmatic the WTS were in the Revelation book)

    The Bible calls these rebels “nations in the four corners of the earth.” This does not mean that mankind will have been divided once again into mutually exclusive national entities. It merely indicates that these will separate themselves from Jehovah’s righteous, loyal ones and manifest the same bad spirit that the nations show today. T

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