"Special Meeting" 4/27/03 ???

by robhic 5 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • robhic
    robhic

    My friend who is a JW happened to mention to me last night that there is a "special meeting" today, Sunday 4/27/03. I know the JW do things in a lock-step, uniform way so I wondered if this is an organization-wide special meeting or could it just be a local one?

    Is a local meeting that isn't in accordance with country- or world-wide uniformity allowed? It just makes me curious because she seems very determined to make this meeting. As her health has been poor for a few months precluding meeting attendance (except for the Memorial) I wonder why this meeting is different.

    Anbody know anything about this? Is it maybe a first step to introducing "new light?" Like possibly the welcoming of the UN as something other than the "Scarlet Beast?"

    She just seemed a bit more hyped up about this meeting and with all the speculation about coming events regarding the UN it got my curiousity up. Thanks.

    Robert

  • rocketman
    rocketman

    Rob, it appears thet your friend was simplt referring to the Special Talk, given every year around this time. There's an active thread on the talk, with a summary by dmouse.

  • BluesBrother
    BluesBrother

    I went. It was about as special as a can of baked beans

  • hippikon
    hippikon

    The usual anti climax!

  • Tammie
    Tammie

    There is always a special talk given shortly after Memorial. No big deal.

  • UnDisfellowshipped
    UnDisfellowshipped

    The "Special Talk" I went to was a bit different than some of the "Special Talks" other people went to, who have posted on JWD:

    I went to the "Special Talk" on Sunday, April 27th, 2003!

    By UnDisfellowshipped ([email protected]) I went to the "Special Talk" intentionally (gasp), in order to see what they are saying about the United Nations now, especially after the new 6-01-2003 Watchtower Article.

    Below are the interesting QUOTES from the "Special Talk" (to be honest, I was somewhat shocked to see how many threats about being destroyed were in the Talk):

    "Has Babylon's Judgment Hour Arrived?" (Special Talk, April 27th, 2003)

    First, in the prayer, the Brother asked Jehovah to make sure that this Special Talk "infiltrates" everyone's hearts.

    Then, the Brother who was giving the Special Talk started his Talk.

    There was absolutely NO mention of the United Nations or the Scarlet-Colored Wild Beast in the entire Talk about Babylon being destroyed!

    (For more information on the "New Light on the U.N.", please go to: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/50250/1.ashx)

    He quoted from the "Revelation - Its Grand Climax At Hand!" Book twice during the Talk.

    Now, the QUOTES BEGIN (Quotes from the Special Talk are in Bold. Comments that are particularly interesting are in Bold Red):

    At the beginning of his Talk, the Brother said: "Babylon the Great will be destroyed by Political Powers".

    Then, later in the Talk, he said that "Jehovah was going to send Jesus and the angels, and Jesus and the angels would DIRECTLY destroy Babylon the Great."

    Then, later, he said "Jehovah is going to send Jesus and the angels to wipe the filthiness of Babylon off the face of the earth!"

    (UNDISFELLOWSHIPPED'S COMMENT: That seems very interesting -- it sounds like they may be teaching "New Light" that Babylon will be destroyed directly by Jesus and the angels, and NOT by the United Nations!)

    "Babylon the Great is made up of all religions on earth, EXCEPT for Jehovah's Witnesses."

    "There is a giant chasm between Babylon the Great and the Jehovah's Witnesses."

    "Merchants who buy and sell with Babylon will be upset when Babylon is destroyed because they will say 'Who will buy or sell our stuff now?' "

    "Babylon the Great will do anything for money, Babylon has absolutely no morals at all -- she is a harlot -- she is the madam of all harlots!"

    (UNDISFELLOWSHIPPED'S COMMENT: Please visit this Thread for some interesting information about Jehovah's Witnesses buying and selling Buildings with Babylon the Great: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/49887/1.ashx)

    "The Anointed Ones and the Great Crowd will be very happy and joyful when Babylon the Great is destroyed!"

    "The imminent destruction of Babylon is beautiful!"

    "Babylon has absolutely no cleanliness at all!"

    "Babylon is guilty for all of the blood that has ever been shed on the entire earth -- from Abel all the way to the modern-day people!"

    "Babylon the Great has made their Churches into Voting Places and Places to Organize Army Troops for so-called 'Holy Wars'!"

    (UNDISFELLOWSHIPPED'S COMMENT: According to the November 1, 1999 Watchtower, it is now "Up to your conscience" for Jehovah's Witnesses to Vote in Political Elections)

    "Every remnant and spec of Babylon will be destroyed because she has told terrible lies about God and has caused horrible injustices to be done on earth."

    "Babylon holds fast to the traditions of men and doesn't care at all about truth."

    "Babylon tells people 'Trust me, trust me, trust me -- give me your money and I will take care of your salvation.' "

    "Babylon's main teachings are all LIES, LIES, LIES -- the Trinity, Hellfire, and the immortal soul -- ALL LIES!"

    The Brother then says he is Quoting from "Revelation Book", Page 237, and then says "The Catholic Church supported and helped Hitler and the Nazis, and the Catholic Church allowed the Holocaust to happen!"

    "It is a Bible fact that the Last Days began in 1914!"

    "Eve taught Cain to be a wicked, evil person!"

    "The Judgment of Babylon is IMMINENT!"

    "WE, yes WE are going to see the FULFILLMENT of the destruction of the 'Man of Lawlessness'!"

    "Because of world events, such as the War in Iraq, the Governing Body is now saying that Babylon the Great is in the 'Target Zone' for IMMINENT destruction!"

    "How can you get out and stay out of the 'Target Zone' of Babylon the Great? YOU MUST HAVE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH BABYLON THE GREAT!"

    "You do not even have to be a member of Babylon in order to be bloodguilty and be in the 'Target Zone'. YOU MUST BECOME A JEHOVAH'S WITNESS IN ORDER TO BE FREE FROM BLOODGUILT!"

    "People are leaving Babylon because they see so much hypocrisy!"

    "Jesus won't execute us if we stay in 'The Truth'. As long as we stay in 'The Truth' we are safe!"

    "There are a lot of things people are scared about now, there's SARS, AIDS, Anthrax, Wars -- but Jehovah's Witnesses are not scared of any of that. BUT THIS SHOULD SCARE THE DAYLIGHTS OUT OF EVERYONE -- JESUS CHRIST IS GOING TO DESTROY EVERY SINGLE PERSON ON EARTH WHO IS NOT IN THE WATCHTOWER ORGANIZATION!"

    (UNDISFELLOWSHIPPED'S COMMENT: There goes China and most of the Muslim Countries who have NEVER gotten to hear from the Jehovah's Witnesses!)

    "Jehovah's Witnesses MUST NOT get curious about any of the things that are going on outside of the Watchtower Organization right now."

    "All Jehovah's Witnesses need more time to think."

    "Having an independant attitude could cost you your life! Always trying to think about what 'rights' you have, especially in the Western World, could cost you your life!"

    "Token Field Service is NOT acceptable to Jehovah God -- Jehovah will NOT accept you if you squeeze in Field Service between the things that you have to do in life."

    "After Babylon goes down, IMMEDIATELY BILLIONS OF PEOPLE WILL BE DESTROYED BY JESUS CHRIST! Jehovah's Witnesses should REJOICE!"

    "Jehovah's Witnesses should AVOID being sentimental toward the BILLIONS of worldly people who are going to be destroyed!"

    "Being sentimental could cost you your life!"

    "Jehovah's Witnesses should AVOID being too tolerant of worldly people -- that could cost you your life!"

    "Toleration can be used to allow wicked acts to be justified, like homosexuality!"

    "I do not know if weak faith will save you -- you must strengthen your faith NOW!"

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