Watchtower do you know what your shunning is doing?

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  • clarity

    The human brain has a neural interdependence that underpins the human need to group together. Learn why we need others to thrive and survive on the next episode of THE BRAIN WITH DAVID EAGLEMAN, airing TONIGHT at 10/9c on PBS.

    Watchtower knows that isolation is a killer and yet they enforce it.

    They are murdering our brains!


  • TheWonderofYou

    Thats really important, if JW shun someone it leads automatically to a drastic social problem. Because this person has no close contact with outsiders and no contact with insiders any longer, because it has been "JW-socialized".

    In Europe we have approx. 3 Mio. Jehovahs witnesses altogether (please give better data if you have). [interested may be 6 Mio]

    On average 1 % is disfellowshipped annually and has no family contact any more, they are not repantent or simply ceased to believe in the doctrine.

    In the last 10 years we can estimate that 300000 european followers have gone through the HELL OF SHUNNING.

    1/3 returned after the hell to the Borg, the remainin 2/3 (200000 europeans citizens are socially excluded and need approx. 5-10 years to socialise again, find new friends. New jobs even, if a brother worked in an enterprise of a brother.

    200.000 shunned Europeans (10 years) Most of them have family in Jehovahs witness church.

    So lets assume 1 excommunicated has 4 close family members (father, mother, sister, brother) that are not talking with him again any more.

    this makes 200.000 x 4 = 800.000 Persons closely concerned with Shunning of Jehovahs witnesses in Europe alone. If we take more years, back the last 20 years we would come to a higher amount, even up to nearly 2 Million Europeans concerned.

    if 30.000 are shunned annually worldwide we have 120.000 concerned people and brains.

    if 50.000 are shunned annually worldwide we have 200.000 family members concerned and brains.

    In former times the amount of shunned ones was not so high because the amount of "member brains" was less.

    The hell of shunning is not only a psychlogicyla trauma and stress for 2 Mio Europeans but results in drastic costs for health care, medicamentaion and therapy, oftens lifelong social problems and even suicides.

    Its definitely a case for Human rights office of the United Nations. They will hear soon of it. There are many helping those who are captive and cant speak for themselves. The time is near


    What is shunning

    Meant is not a merely shunning on private level but a consquence of an institutional investigation, according to procedure and combined with a public proclamation that leads to shunning of a member of the community. That is not the choice of the individual alone any more it is institutional shunning and harmful practise. Therefor it has a social aspect too.

    Most members of them love their belief and the family and friends, they only disagree with certain aspects of doctrine like the institutional shunning, the leadership abilities of the highrankers.

    labeled as "disobidient, independent thinkers" they face the excommunication.

  • Bugbear

    It is true that the principle of shunning and Dfs, hurt a lot of former JW.s And that this behavior have led people to suicide, and have caused them mental trouble. But it is not a weapon that could kill their enemies only, it can Couse even them who chose to stay enormous pain and nervous problems.

    In my case, my wife and I have created a big family. Six children and today five grandchildren. None of us is any longer a JW, except my wife!!! She is supposed to shun all her children, not letting them come to our big house, not letting them sleep over in our house (none of them has married). When some of the members of the family celebrates Christmas/birthdays and want to do it in our house, she must leave the house going to “her friends”, doing her service hours. If she is choosing to stay home on some meeting, because she have all heir 5 grandchildren at home, there is always one or two giving her a call, to hear why she didn´t attend that special meeting.

    I can tell, that it is not the rest of the family that is depressed and have nervous problems with WT shunning and Dfs policy. In fact it hits the user of that policy as well. I know several families in the same situation. Some of the older members of the congs, has been forced to move to other cities so that it shouldn´t be obvious that they still like to meet their children and grandchildren.


  • TheWonderofYou

    A paragraph from the new February 2016 bible study "Learn from Jehovah's loyal servants. of J. R eads as follow: "Learn from Jehovah's loyal servants." „ A conflict of loyalties may arise when a close relative is disfellowshipped. For example, a sister named Anne received a telephone call from her disfellowshipped mother. The mother wanted to visit Anne because she felt pained by her isolation from the family. Anne was deeply distressed by the plea and promised to reply by letter. Before writing, she reviewed Bible principles. (1 Cor. 5:11;2 John 9-11) Anne wrote and kindly reminded her mother that she had cut herself off from the family by her wrongdoing and unrepentant attitude. “The only way you can relieve your pain is by returning to Jehovah,” Anne wrote.

    Thats institutional advice how to shun.

  • tim3l0rd

    It already aired in my area... :( Maybe I can find it streaming somewhere.

  • tim3l0rd
    Here's a streaming link for those that want to watch it:
  • Vidiot
    "Look what you made us do to you!!!"
  • clarity

    Thank you all for your wonderful input. Sorry for my absence ..just got in.

    This shunning & social isolation is hugely damaging as you all have stated. The study of the human brain & our human need is amazing & if you can watch it or even goggle it, I recommend doing that.

    Deep psychological pain is the result of being starved of human contact. It is an attack on our humanness. Studies of isolation show a loss of a sense of self. Loosing yourself ...imagine that on a worldwide scale!

    There are many ways to isolate .... but usually starts with propaganda & lies. In the case of watchtower we have ample proof of their methods. Members are bombarded with lies & fear ....we only have to look at the pages of the watchtower magazine or listen to talks & demonstrations at conventions to prove this is true.

    This PBS presentation brings out that for our success as a species ...we need to interact with each other. WE NEED each other. Our brains are wired to interact with other human brains. Otherwise we become dehumanized. We get sick. We develop aspergers, autism, schizophrenia and a host of other disorders.

    So 'watchtower printing company' we do not need you ...we need our families & friends & all of mankind! Look what you fools have done with your hard hearted evil rules .... you are killing people in more ways than one. You should be more than ashamed, you should be arrested & sent to jail!


  • pepperheart
    this is why i like to go to the trolleys and take as many teaching books as i can and trash them because if i can just save one person from being shunned it will be worth it
  • clarity
    Thanks Pepperheart and welcome to jwn!

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