“Joshua” and “Jesus” are the same Greek and Hebrew/Aramaic name: is this not confusing?

by psyco 6 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • psyco

    God’s name disappeared in the Christian Greek Scriptures and its pronunciation got lost in the Hebrew-Aramaic ones. The current vowels of the Hebrew pronunciation of God’s name are taken from the “Adonay” (“Lord”) Hebrew word which were the vowels chosen by who did not want to pronounce His name. Whereas the current Latin pronunciation of God’s name (“Jehovah”) was introduced by Raymundus Martini, a Spanish monk of the Dominican order, in his book published in 1270 C.E. (w80 2/1 pp. 11-13).

    If this is not enough, “Joshua” (like in Acts 7:45 and Hebrews 4:8) and “Jesus” (like, for example, in Hebrews 4:14) are two different Latin translations of the same Greek name “ΙΗΣΟΥΣ” and of the same Hebrew name ”יהושע” and of the same (abbreviated) Aramaic name ”ישוע”.

    Is it not confusing that the two most important words of the entire Bible (which are the names that let you identify and call the two most important characters: God and His Son) are so messed up?

    Am I wrong?

  • waton

    dont know about the details, but Jesus never made the sun stand still, or stopped and restarted the rotation of the Earth, as we would say now. a herculean task compared with walking on water.

  • WTWizard

    Both of these names are a curse on the whole human race, especially the hebrew version of "jehova". Instead, I would rather use "joke-hova"--I never did pretend to respect that piece of s*** that is about to fully ruin the whole earth for all of us. And mandatory coronavirus vaccines are just the start--that thing will literally own us, and part of the reason is the spiritual energy derived from these heinous, foul names.

    And jesus is no better--that abomination is nothing more than the archetype of the perfect slave. Follow that thing as the curse-filled book they know as the bible dictates, and you become the perfect slave. Apparently it worked, because too many people voluntarily took the coronavirus shot, and not even under threat of losing their job or freedom (and too many couldn't wait for it to come out so they could start the process of becoming enslaved). If that is what jesus does, I don't want anything to do with that, either.

  • smiddy3

    Welcome psyco.

    But aren`t the 4 letters representing Jehovah / Yahweh God , taken from the tetragrammaton ? JHVH / YHWH .

    And the vowels taken from Adonay added to those letters to make up Jehovah / Yahweh ?

    Whereas Jesus is a shortened version of Jehoshua ?

    And didn`t the GB/ JW admit in the book Aid To Bible Understanding first edition that the more correct pronunciation of Gods name probably is Yahweh ? or words to that effect and used the excuse why they chose to go with the name Jehovah was because it was the most popular name in use of the day.

    And doesn`t that statement contradict their claim that Christendom try`s to hide God`s name from their members ? Many churches throughout the world have the name Jehovah engraved in stone on there buildings.

    Many Churches throughout Christendom use the name either Jehovah or Yahweh in hymns and Bibles that they use including the Catholic Church which has used both names.

  • road to nowhere
    road to nowhere

    Every name in the bible is made up. The translation describes the person, good or bad. Who assigned the names?

  • Phizzy

    Nothing confusing about it when you look at the origins of the names. The name of the Israelite god Yahweh is etymologically difficult to nail down, but the name evolved as the god travelled from probably Egypt, via Midian, and he became a minor god in the Canaanite Pantheon, the name being pronounced differently by these different peoples, no doubt. Eventually he was adopted as an Israelite tribal god, among the others they worshipped, until after the Babylonian Exile when a form of Monotheism began to emerge.

    Jesus of Nazareth was no doubt named by his parents in the normal way, choosing a name for him with nice connotations, but shared with many boys born around that time. At the time of choosing a name, his parents were not to know a huge Mythology would grow up around him, after his death.

  • JoenB75
    Well they did both salvation for his people. I guess context tells the Hebrews translators that when the ref is "Joshua" and when it is "Jesus".

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