Have you ever thought about this statistic?

by psyco 8 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • psyco
    psyco
    Forgetting for a moment the past, let us imagine that now we are about 8,000,000,000 people in the world and JWs are about 8,000,000.
    8,000,000 / 8,000,000,000 = 0.1%.
    This means that Satan can mislead 99.9% (100 - 0.1) of the people in the world.
    After 1,000 years, when humankind will be perfect again, since "The number of these is as the sand of the sea" (Revelation 20:8), once again a huge amount of perfect people will get misled by Satan.
    If the reason for this big number was because of the imperfection, that means Adam and Eve's fault, not so many "perfect" people should get misled by Satan in the future paradise.
    So, could you think that 99.9% of the perfect angels are demons misled by Satan? If not, why is Satan able or allowed to mislead so many more (imperfect and) perfect humans than angels?
    Another question is: if God "does not desire anyone to be destroyed" (2 Peter 3:9), why does He allow Satan to be able to mislead 99.9% of people since He knows in advance that "many, I tell you, will seek to get in but will not be able" (Luke 13:24), and "The number of these is as the sand of the sea" (Revelation 20:8), and "Go in through the narrow gate, because broad is the gate and spacious is the road leading off into destruction, and many are going in through it; whereas narrow is the gate and cramped the road leading off into life, and few are finding it" (Matthew 7:13, 14)? Should not it be the other way around as a logical statistic?
  • FFGhost
    FFGhost

    More fun with numbers:

    About 1/2 of the worlds population lives in China, India, or Muslim-supermajority nations, where the work of JWs is either outright banned or so thinly spread as to be virtually non-existent.

    So, after 100+ years of "the most vital lifesaving work possible", at least half the world's population has never talked to a JW, let alone knows of the existence of "Jehovah's Witnesses", let alone knows about a god named "Jehovah".

    100+ years of knocking at the doors of the same empty houses over & over & over again while half the world's population is untouched.

    As I've said many times: If there really were a "Jehovah" as the WTS paints him, and if he really expected "his organization" to give a "worldwide witness" in the "last days", he execute the lot of them for their abject miserable failure to do so.

  • truth_b_known
    truth_b_known

    According to the Bible, there have been exactly 3 humans who were declared "perfect" by Jehovah. 2/3 of them (66.6%) were mislead be Satan (The 1 that remained perfect was forsaken by Jehovah at his execution). All of mankind minus 8 people at the time of Noah's Flood. In 2022 99.9% of all mankind (footnote: That is a conservative estimate as we do not know how many of JWs are PIMO).

    If life were the NFL Satan would be a Super Bowl champ and MVP.

  • nowwhat?
    nowwhat?

    Satan is the all time reigning uncontested heavy weight champion of the world. So why would she be hellbent on the 0.1% of the world that no one pays any attention to anyway?

  • DesirousOfChange
    DesirousOfChange

    JW's Lifesaving Ministry results in 1/10th of 1% of mankind being saved.

    1 Tim 2:3-4 says: "3 This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4 who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth."

    Jehovah certainly needs a different PR representative as JW's are doing a pathetically poor job at accomplishing his will.

  • Simon
    Simon

    Someone could be genuinely looking for the "one true religion" (just pretend there is such a thing) their entire lifetime and never come across JWS.

    Sorry, you failed, go directly to eternal death, do not pass Go, do not collect eternal life.

    God is an evil fucker that runs an unfair game doesn't he? (even if you believe it)

  • Vanderhoven7
    Vanderhoven7

    <<Forgetting for a moment the past, let us imagine that now we are about 8,000,000,000 people in the world and JWs are about 8,000,000.

    8,000,000 / 8,000,000,000 = 0.1%.
    This means that Satan can mislead 99.9% (100 - 0.1) of the people in the world.>>

    THAT SEEMS RIGHT

    wt 58 10/15 pp. 614-615 What Will Armageddon Mean to You
    As for humans upon earth, on the side of Jehovah will be all those fully dedicated to him and who are faithfully following Jesus Christ; compared with earth’s billions these are indeed few.... On Satan’s side will be all the rest of mankind, more than 99.9 percent, even as we read: "The whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one." That includes all the governments of the world together with their supporters, the commercial, religious and social institutions.... Armageddon will be the worst thing ever to hit this earth in the history of man.
  • smiddy3
    smiddy3

    1 Tim 2:3-4 says: "3 This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4 who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth."

    So why the bloody hell doesn`t he reveal himself to ALL mankind ?

    And not just some specialized group that no one can verify ?

    It`s not rocket science is it ?

    With all of the technology that`s around today ,surely it`s not too hard for the creator to figure it out is it ?

    Geeeez , my mind boggles.

  • dropoffyourkeylee
    dropoffyourkeylee

    I remember making a comment in the WT (when the worldwide report was the subject of discussion) to the effect that of the five most populated countries in the world, four were virtually untouched by the WT. It went over like a lead balloon.

    In order of population China, India, US, Indonesia, Pakistan. Of these, only the US has a significant representation of JWs, but the five countries together represent about 45% of the world population. At the time I made the comment, China and Indonesia were under ban and didn't appear in the report, at least explicitly by name. Looking at the 2021 report, China is still absent but the other four countries are listed. India, Indonesia, and Pakistan together are showing around 86,000 JWs, compared to the US with 1,256,000. Since China is not listed, I don't know how many JWs are there but it must be less than the 212,000 shown for '33 other lands'.

    There are a number of reasons for this that come to mind. One is the effectiveness or lack therof of the Christian missionaries in the preceding centures (1600's-1800's), which laid the foundation for the JWs. Related to this is the prevalence of non-Christian faiths. India, Indonesia, and Pakistan have been remarkably resistant to Western missionaries, including JWs. Government action in the 1900's in China and Indonesia has been significant in keeping the JWs out.

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