Jehovah`s Witnesses owe their existence to Christendom`s groundwork.

by smiddy3 8 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

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  smiddy3

  1.Jehovah`s Witnesses base their Bible on Christendoms determination of what books of Scripture were to become what is known as the Bible today,going back to the third century AD.

  There were many ,many other books of Scripture in existence at that time that these men decided in their own imperfect wisdom not to include them .

  Where it suited them the JW / GB would use the research of Christendoms learned men who compiled Bible Dictionary`s and Bible Concordances.

  2.By far the vast majority of Jehovah`s Witnesses today are off-shoots of many of Christendom`s religions from whom they poached members from and then gave birth to their own offspring to grow in numbers.

  With all of there self praise of witnessing in all of the earth ,it is mainly wholly contained in lands where Christendom has established the major religion of that land and JW`s have poached the most vulnerable people of that time.

  3.How many thousands of people have they converted in Bangladesh ? Pakistan ? China ? India ? Muslim Country`s ? Etc,Etc.

  Any Non Christian Nation ?

  Oh they might be able to show a token two or three here and their but you can bet your bottom dollar they were affiliated with a Christian Church beforehand.

  Jehovah`s Witnesses are not unique ? in any way shape or form they are just another sect of Christendom.
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  dropoffyourkeylee

  Very true. The missionary work of the Christian Churches, many US-based, of the 1500's to 1900's made the WT expansion possible around the world. Where this missionary work was successful is where the WT message later found people who were ready converts.
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  FFGhost

  Speaking of India, my understanding is that the JWs there preach almost exclusively to already-Christian Indians, and well over 95% of the population of India is just completely and utterly ignored.
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  slimboyfat

  This was basically their teaching on the dragnet parable.

  https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/pc/r1/lp-e/2008523/0/0

  12 In the centuries after the apostles left the scene, there continued to be some Christians striving to find and hold to divine truth. At least some of these had God’s approval, and he anointed them with holy spirit. Still, the death of the apostles removed a restraining influence, allowing a widespread apostasy to develop. (2 Thessalonians 2:7, 8) An organization grew up that unworthily professed to be God’s congregation. It falsely claimed to be the holy nation anointed with God’s spirit to rule with Jesus.

  13. Why can it be said that Christendom had a role in the dragnet operation?

  13 Do you think that unfaithful professors of Christianity had any part in the illustration of the dragnet? Well, there is reason to answer, yes, they did. The symbolic dragnet included Christendom. True, for ages the Catholic Church tried to keep the Bible from the common people. Nevertheless, over the centuries members of Christendom played a key role in translating, copying, and distributing God’s Word. Churches later formed or supported Bible societies, which rendered the Bible into the languages of remote lands. They also sent out medical missionaries and teachers, who made rice Christians. This gathered vast numbers of unsuitable fish, who did not have God’s approval. But at least it exposed millions of non-Christians to the Bible and to a form of Christianity, although corrupted.

  14. How was fishing for fine fish aided by some work done by the churches of Christendom?

  14 All the while, the scattered faithful ones adhering to God’s Word exerted themselves as best they could. At any given time, they constituted God’s true anointed congregation on earth. And we may be sure that they too were catching fish, or men, many of whom God would view as fine and whom he would anoint with his spirit. (Romans 8:14-17) These fine professors of Christianity were able to bring Bible truth to many who had become rice Christians or who had gained limited Biblical knowledge from the Scriptures translated into their tongues by Christendom’s Bible societies. True, the collecting of fine fish was going on, even though most being gathered by Christendom were unsuitable from God’s standpoint.

  15. Pointedly, what is represented by the dragnet of the parable?

  15 So the dragnet represents an earthly instrument that professes to be God’s congregation and that gathers in fish. It has included both Christendom and the congregation of anointed Christians, the latter having continued to collect fine fish, under the invisible guidance of the angels, in line with Matthew 13:49.
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  Longlivetherenegades

  It is an OPEN SECRET JWs didn't rain down from HEAVEN or germinated from the EARTH unaided
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  mynameislame

  Thinking about it I'm surprised they didn't decide to add or remove a couple of books just to maintain their we're different but the same facade.
  
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  StephaneLaliberte

  that was one of the things that woke me up. JWs brag about their preaching work and I've grown up believing that the Catholics and other Christian dominations didn't preach simply because they didn't go door to door. And then, I stopped and wondered: How could they end up with billions of believers without preaching? Than, I was trying to dismiss it saying: "Yeah, but they were preaching false teachings." ... Well when you consider all the old lights that the JWs preached about, they were also preaching false teachings. So.... that argument false flat.
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  Drearyweather

  Christianity as a whole came into being when Jesus poached followers from Judaism. Each religion starts as an offshoot of another one.

  The problem is retention. Christendom has the worst record of retaining members. The growth on an offshoot simply means that the original did a poor job in holding on its members.
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  Phizzy

  You are just so right in your O.P Smiddy3 !

  The J.W Org likes to present itself as something special, as though they are superior to Christendom and its Scholars. The truth of the matter is that ALL they are is plagiarisers and adaptors of the work of others. And they make a poor job of that !!

  I could do better, working on the foundation laid before, than they do, idiots. Russell was an arch plagiariser , using the works of Adventists before him, and other works by loonies like Piazzi-Smythe with his Pyramidology. The Org ever since have not, in common with Russell, actually had an idea that is entirely their own.

  They adapted ideas of others, who were members of Christendom, to come up with everything, except perhaps, I have to admit, the Overlapping Generation, yes, they thought that one up, and what a Doozy it is !

  But for everything else they rely upon the people of " Apostate" Christendom ! ( as they call it ).

  The problem they have had for a decade or more, is, where to go for inspiration ? The Scholars of Christendom and others who study the Bible or parts thereof, are becoming far more honest, and pointing out that it is all really Fiction. So, the question is, where will " New Light" come from ? They can no longer rely on a supply from outside, and no one in the org has the necessary knowledge or understanding to come up with a new direction for them.

  So, they are stuck with trying to flog the dead horse of a 19th Century Apocalyptic End Time message that is WAY past its sell by date.