I got one visit, just the once and that was years ago. I think I am DA'd now. I'm not sure, really. But at the time I was trying to do the Fade thing (before I knew it had a name). The elder was a good friend of mine, and some little toadie accompanied him. We talked for awhile. They really tried, in their way, to be encouraging, but I think their friend knew at the time that this stuff between him and I was BS. There was no way we were going to have an honest discussion with that other dude in the room. Finally I just said that I was moving and would be going to another hall once I got there. It was a half truth. I was moving. I think my friend knew it and was a litle glad he didn't have to get involved any further. And I was glad not to involve him. He's a good man. I think in another world and in another sect, he'd be a good minister too.