Jehovah's Witnesses Can Go To Hell!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by Big Tex 7 Replies latest jw friends

  • Big Tex
    Big Tex

    I need someplace to vent, so excuse me but I am very angry at the moment.

    As most of you know, my father in law committed suicide last Sunday (the 16th). His death hit Nina hard, but I've discovered this week that my sweet little kitten of a wife has the heart of a lion. When the elder who oh so arrogantly sat on Bill's judicial committee (and rode him mercilessly the past 18 months) called in mock sympathy, Nina tore him a new one. Word spread quickly and no other Witness called. Last night a Witness friend whom Nina has known for nearly 30 years, and was very close to Bill, stopped by with a cheesecake and announced that she wouldn't attend the memorial service because she was going to drive to her daughter's house to see her sonogram (her daughter also owns a spa, so this woman will be getting a manicure, pedicure and whatever else goes on at spas).

    Nina wanted to have a memorial service at Bill's retirement home because he had many friends there and they were the only people who really cared about him. She didn't want some outline talk at a KH with JWs in attendance sending out fake sympathy. Her attitude is that the Witnesses didn't give a damn about him, sat in judgment on him, so the memorial service would only be for family and friends who Bill cared about, or who cared about Bill. She also wanted those who knew Bill best to say a few words about Bill; what he meant to them, how he impacted their life, etc.) and that included the residents of Bill's retirement home. One of the residents very humbly and quietly asked her if she would mind if he sang a song. He was a close friend of Bill's (not a JW) and Bill's death was close to his heart. Naturally Nina was touched and agreed.

    I just got off the phone with our best friend (he's a JW elder) who told us that he not only will not say anything at the service, but he will not even attend. Why? He has several problems. 1) we won't let him use the funeral outline talk (approved by God's spirit directed organization); 2) we are allowing "worldy" people to say anything they want; and 3) we are letting this "worldly" man sing Amazing Grace at a memorial service. "Don't you know that's a religous song from Babylon the Great?" he said. This is what I got angry about: "I can't believe you would let this go on at Bill's service when he is in heaven (Bill partook of the emblems). Do you want to get him angry? I can't show up with this type of nonsense going on." He said he would attend only if "this guy" sang this horrible religous Babylonian song before or after he spoke.

    If you knew my friend, he is a good man and he would never talk this way about anyone let alone someone he considers family. But he has talked this over with the CO (he's visting them this week) and these are clearly the CO's words. He also told us that he would not come to the internment (it is for family and he was absolutely included) because he "forgot" and had a previously rehearsal (for what?) during that time. Nina and I talked it over and she called him back and told him that this was her father's service and she would do as she wanted and not what Jehovah's Witnesses wanted.

    Oh what a loving organization full of kind, gentle and loving people! Bill was in this congregation for 3 years. When he was in the hospital, no one called or went to see him. When he was depressed and lonely no one invited him out or asked after him. After 50 years of service he made one mistake and was instantly DF'd. No one would even look at him, much less talk to him. Now he is dead. These same people turn up their nose at a memorial in his honor. Jehovah's Witnesses are exclusive.

    Oh how evil and wicked "worldy" people are in these last days! Bill lived in his retirement home for 18 months. When he was in the hospital, his friends at there called and were concerned. His friends were worried about his drinking. When he was depressed and lonely, he was invited out; he was included. A regular group was started, because of Bill's lonliness, to go out and eat regularly. He was popular and was asked if he wanted to run for president of the resident's association (he died before he could). After 54 years of marriage, he made one mistake and these evil and wicked worldly people understood it was because of caregiving his wife's Alzheimer's for 10 years on his own; they understood and did not sit in judgment on him. Now he is dead. These same people have approached us and very humbly and graciously asked if they could say something about their friend, so many in fact that director met with Nina to expand the service and to determine the order of people speaking. These people are inclusive.

    When I was hungry, you gave me something to eat, and when I was thirsty, you gave me something to drink. When I was a stranger, you welcomed me, and when I was naked, you gave me clothes to wear. When I was sick, you took care of me, and when I was in jail, you visited me." Then the ones who pleased the Lord will ask, "When did we give you something to eat or drink? When did we welcome you as a stranger or give you clothes to wear or visit you while you were sick or in jail?" The king will answer, "Whenever you did it for any of my people, no matter how unimportant they seemed, you did it for me." -- Matthew 25:35-41

  • Valis

    Ack! My post didn't post..Big T, welcome to the club brother...JWs messed up my grandfather's funeral just the same even though he didn't believe any of that crap...Tell them you know a DO that will gladly give them a Theocratic foot up the ass if necessary!


    District Overbeer

  • outoftheorg

    He took care of his mate all his married life, took care of her for 10 years with her having alzheimers.

    What a devoted and caring husband. What an exhausting lonely life for those 10 years.

    He makes one mistake and they Df Him!!!! This way his life is even lonelier and emotionaly exhausting.

    Now the bastards want to take control of his death and memorial.

    This is insanity on the part of the jw's. Insanity and arrogance beyond comprehension.

    They need what I told the last three elders I dealt with. They need the shit beat out of them.

    But we, being of sane mind and aware of the consequences will not do to them what they did to this man. Destroy him. Yes in my opinion they destroyed him.

    Hopefully that God they believe in, will in his anger and the destructive actions, he has displayed in the past, do the punishing for us.



    Big Tex...

    Man, this sounds soooo familiar. My heart is with you. Stay strong. Together we will defeat the bastards...and even if we cannot defeat them, we will prove to the world who has true unconditional love for their fellow man. They will probably wind up defeating to their own hard-heartedness.


  • xenawarrior


    breathe in, breathe out, breathe in, breathe out ... K, feel better??? Vent all you want hon - what you are dealing with is just NUTS!!!

    I'm glad to see that Nina is standing her ground on this- screw em !!!!

    My thoughts are with you both and I am so looking forward to seeing you and giving you both something besides these cyber hugs !!

    Hang in there !!!!


  • Pistoff

    Can you believe what these men will do? Who can understand this kind of thinking?

    Only the control freaks inside the org.

    I am thinking of you and your family, you deserve better than you are getting, to say the least.

    Don't let the bastards get you down.

  • Makena1

    (((Cruzanheart and Big Tex))))

    We are so saddened by this news - our hearts ache for you.

    I think the last I read was your post about your father taking care of your mother, then getting DF'd. Now another wonderful person, beaten down a bit by life is sacrificed on the altar of the WT. When will this end?

    If you ever want to talk - please email us. We have been through something similar in our lives.


    Mak and Sabine

  • LyinEyes

    This is so a sad situation ,,,,,,but you both are handling all of this in the best way. Today I have thought alot about the love that is NOT shown within the organization,,,, I watched the panaroma show on the WorldLink channel today about the child abuse going on. All the JW's care about is covering their arrogant asses......they stick to these man made rules for everything,,,and never do they actually do what Jesus would do.

    I just can't imagine,,,,, Jesus standing there saying , " Well I am not giving the funeral talk,,,,,,,because this and that ,,,,,,,, " . I know that if Jesus were asked to speak about someone he loves,,,,,,,he would do it. He would want to. There is no love in the actions that the WT requires of it's members.

    When my mother committed suicide,,,,,,Denny and I were both very active witnesses.. She had been disfellowshipped only 4 months ... only out of rehab ,, when she did it. There was no one in the whole circuit that felt their conscience would allow them to give her talk or even a prayer or scripture at the grave side. Or even attend her services.

    This was an elders wife for 16 years, she always made over anyone who was sick,,,,, cooked meals, paid for anything anybody wanted, even gave the shirt off her back just because someone said it was pretty. There were no phone calls, no one came to her funeral, no cards, no flowers,,,,, which is the saddest part to me,,,,, she was always the one in the congregation to make sure who ever was sick always had fresh flowers by their bedside. She had an intimate relationship with her florist

    They slapped her in the face even in death, just as they had done by ignoring her cries for help all those times she was in the hospital, they had no compassion when they saw her at her lowest, in rehab,,,,,, guess what no calls then either. We had to get a justice of the peace to do a funeral talk using the JW outline,,, the family had to do a prayer and a scripture.

    Well they made their stand about my mom, judging that she would not get a resurrection,,,,,,and none of them could even honor her memory in anyway. I know some may have went to the funeral but I know what was going on at the time ,,they were strongly discouraged in doing that.

    No one even came for me and Denny's sake either. How off is that ??? My mother was dead, why couldnt they be there for us?? Because the JW's are a sick and twisted , mind controlled group of people who are either so sad and depressed themselves or find some validation in judging others harshly, to make themselves seem somehow stronger than others.

    They make me sick too!

    Big Tex and Nina,,,,,,, I am so glad you are doing this your way,,,,, there are so many things I wish I could have done for my mother, but I didnt know what I know now.

    My thoughts and prayers will be with you,durning this very hard time... hugs Dede

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