JW do alot of bad... and we are all collectively responsible for this!

by StephaneLaliberte 7 Replies latest jw experiences

  • StephaneLaliberte

    I know someone who was working for an elder. When she got disfellowshipped, he gave her two weeks noticed and paid for one... She didn't bring that SOB to court as it was her own father. That happened about a months ago.

    Another example is that me and my family have become inactive. Rather then simply telling my friends and others as to why I have left, I have faded out for fear of loosing my family. I have another friend who has done the same thing recently as well.

    A member of my family has tried to commit suicide this year. One of the major factor was the fact that she has left the witnesses, lost all her friends, a good portion of the family, and that, while simply becoming inactive!

    The problem that I see here is that we were all quiet about these things. None of the "rank and file"s know about these stories and the watchtower appears clean. Why? Because we are all so afraid of loosing our families.

    One additional reason is that we know full well that these stories could appear small to active members who will easily dismiss them away as the "odd" events. But if we were ALL doing it, then, they would realize that these things happen everywhere, all the time. These are not the exceptions but the very life of JW who claim they give more love than pain.

    Right now, I feel that it is not yet my time to hold this fight; I don't even know if I ever will. F**k.. they have my family! The only thing that I know is that while we are not prepared to make such sacrifice, we are all collectively responsible for letting this cult thrive.

  • punkofnice
    ecan6 - we are all collectively responsible for letting this cult thrive

    I think you're being too hard on yourself. Navigating out of this cult is like walking on eggshells. It can be complex and dangerous.

    As for me, I just left. It destroyed my life. I am trying to re-build and it's not working. If I had been more careful I wouldn't be suffering this pain that nearly drove me to suicide too.

    Take care of yourself. Don't let the governing body win. Use theocratic warfare against those filthy disgusting perverted overstuffed gluttonous pigs the watchtower rock star popes.

  • SecretSlaveClass
    I agree with Punk. I can't stomach it everytime I read that active Zombies "have good intentions" or "mean well". All they "mean" or "intend" to do is keep you trapped under the heel of the WBTS - period. If people really believed they had such good intentions for them, they would not have to feel the need to live in fear of losing their families, they could be honest with these "well meaning" zombies and just walk out of the bOrg without repercussions, but we all know that is just not going to happen. Any adult zombie who is aware of the cruel shunning policy and is ok with it is not ok with me and clearly they are not ok with your rights. Good intentions. Give me a break!
  • punkofnice

    SSC - Yes indeed. As Angus Stewart aththe ARC, told his holiness watchtower rock star pope wacko Jacko, 'It's a CAPTIVE religion.'

    The cult is set to survive despite the cost to it's loyal adherants.

    May the WBT$ go bankrupt very soon.

  • SecretSlaveClass


    May the WBT$ go bankrupt very soon.

    Judging by the topics carrying some evidence floating around rhis forum, it certainly doesn't seem impossible.

  • dubstepped

    I agree to some extent with the OP. That's one reason of many that we just DAed. To continue to stay in while wanting out felt like enabling the organization to continue while I held the burden. Nope, not going to do it. What would happen if all of the faders stood up and DAed? It would make a statement. Fading says nothing, though I understand why people do it for family. Still, I believe that sends the wrong message to the top, that they can do what they want and few will take a stand against them.

    Many that are DFed hang their head in shame and go away with a whimper. It is what they want and brainwashed people to do.

    So many in the Borg have doubts but are scared to voice them. All of this lets things go on unchanged. The organization is a bully and people are afraid to punch them in the nose. As a result, they keep on doing what they do. I don't really fault people for not standing up because it is tough for people bearing their scars to do so, but I have to wonder how much the status quo goes on because few really use their voice.

  • Vidiot

    I used to wonder sometimes if we (the XJW community) was, in part, at fault for the ways the WTS refused to improve itself... namely, by pushing and pushing for them to reform, which obviously got their back up and compelled them to dig in even further.


    However, it didn't take long before I realized that they were actually way too far gone for that already, and that "apostates"' words and actions were far more in response to already-egregious conditions than they could ever have been otherwise.

  • wisdomfrombelow

    if we were ALL doing it, then, they would realize that these things happen everywhere, all the time. These are not the exceptions but the very life of JW

    How to get someone to think outside the box? How to get them to ask the right questions that lead to the right conclusions? Many witnesses haven't learned to think critically or reason deeply. They wouldn't know what to do if everything wasn't spelled out in minute detail for them.

    Shunning is horrible and there are many other bad decisions that get made because of institutionalized complete dependency on the "mother organization". The more they invest in it the more painful it is to leave.

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