Anti-War Remarks

by Blueblades 8 Replies latest jw friends

  • Blueblades

    "Every gun that is made,every rocket fired signifies,in the final sense,a theft from those who hunger and are not fed,those who are cold and are not clothed.This world in arms is not spending money alone.It is spending the sweat of its laborers,the genius of its scientists,the hopes of its children...This not the way of life at all in any true sense.Under the cloud of war,it is humanity hanging on a cross of iron".

    These remarks were made in a speech delivered by former President Dwight D.Eisenhower when he spoke before the American Society of Newspaper Editors in 1953.

    He was severely criticized for it because he was a West Point graduate.

    That was 50 years ago.If he was alive today,what do you think his remarks would be now.BTW. His Mother was of the anointed and the family use to have bible studies in their home and were associated with Jehovah's Witnesses back when he was a 5 star General during world war two.He then later became President of the U.S.A. Blueblades

  • ThiChi

    Talk about taking a statement out of context. Remember, he helped defeat Hitler by "going to war." No one wants war, but sometime we must.

    What would the World have been like if we would have stopped Hitler in Munic?

  • Francois

    And that ain't all. The greatest military genius ever produced by this country, perhaps the greatest military genius ever produced on this planet: Douglas MacArthur frequently and in no uncertain terms made references to "the utter futility of war."

    It's only the politicians who think things can be resolved by fighting. And this starts with the schoolyard bully.


  • Satanus

    I hear that jimmy carter, nelson mandella, and the pope are against the coming iraq massacre. But i'm not quoting those guys. Here are some words from that counterculture nut frank zappa.

    Dumb All Over by Frank Zappa...

    Whoever we are
    Wherever we're from
    We shoulda noticed by now
    Our behavior is dumb
    And if our chances
    Expect to improve
    It's gonna take a lot more
    Than tryin' to remove
    The other race
    Or the other whatever
    >From the face
    Of the planet altogether
    They call it THE EARTH
    Which is a dumb kinda name
    But they named it right
    'Cause we behave the same...
    *We are dumb all over*
    Dumb all over,
    Yes we are
    Dumb all over,
    Near 'n far
    Dumb all over,
    Black 'n white
    People, we is not wrapped tight
    Nerds on the left
    Nerds on the right
    Religous fanatics
    On the air every night
    Sayin' the Bible
    Tells the story
    Makes the details
    Sound real gory
    'Bout what to do
    If the geeks over there
    Don't believe in the book
    We got over here
    You can't run a race
    Without no feet
    'N pretty soon
    There won't be no street
    For dummies to jog on
    Or doggies to dog on
    Religous fanatics
    Can make it be all gone
    (I mean it won't blow up
    'N disappear
    It'll just look ugly
    For a thousand years...)
    You can't run a country
    By a book of religion
    Not by a heap
    Or a lump or a smidgeon
    Of foolish rules
    Of ancient date
    Designed to make
    You all feel great
    While you fold, spindle
    And mutilate
    Those unbelievers
    >From a neighboring state
    Hooray! That's great
    Two legs ain't bad
    Unless there's a crate
    They ship the parts
    To mama in
    For souvenirs: two ears *(Get Down!)
    Not his, not hers, *(but what the hey?)
    The Good Book says:
    ("It gotta be that way!")
    But their book says:
    With whips 'n chains
    'N hand grenades..."
    Have another and another
    Our God says:
    "There ain't no other!"
    Our God says
    "It's all okay!"
    Our God says
    "This is the way!"
    It says in the book:
    "Burn 'n destroy...
    'N repent, 'n redeem
    'N revenge, 'n deploy
    'N rumble thee forth
    To the land of the unbelieving scum on the other side
    'Cause they don't go for what's in the book
    'N that makes 'em BAD
    So verily we must choppeth them up
    And stompeth them down
    Or rent a nice French bomb
    To poof them out of existence
    While leaving their real estate just where we need it
    To use again
    For temples in which to praise OUR GOD*
    ("Cause he can really take care of business!")
    And when his humble TV servant
    With humble white hair
    And humble glasses
    And a nice brown suit
    And maybe a blond wife who takes phone calls
    Tells us our God says
    It's okay to do this stuff
    Then we gotta do it,
    'Cause if we don't do it,
    We ain't gwine up to *hebbin!*
    (Depending on which book you're using at the time...Can't use theirs... it don't work's all lies...Gotta use mine...)
    Ain't that right?
    That's what they say
    Every night...
    Every day...
    Hey, we can't really be dumb
    If we're just following *God's Orders
    Hey, let's get serious...
    God knows what he's doin'
    He wrote this book here
    An' the book says:
    He made us all to be just like Him, so...
    If we're dumb...
    Then God is dumb...
    (An' maybe even a little ugly on the side)


    Edited by - saintsatan on 4 February 2003 5:6:14

  • Pleasuredome


    Eisenhower, greatest military genius ever produced on this planet?

    Rommel, Duke of Wellington, Napoleon, Nelson, Drake, Alexander the Great, Rameses II, Cromwell, Julius Ceaser.... the list goes on.

    if any of the above was the greatest, it would be Alexander. hardly comprable to Eisenhower. duh.

  • Xander

    if any of the above was the greatest, it would be Alexander

    Yet, one must question the wisdom in accepting advice from someone who only lived to 32.

  • dubla


    francois was speaking of macarthur, not eisenhower...duh.


    Edited by - dubla on 4 February 2003 11:29:5

  • Crazy151drinker

    I'd take Rommel, Patton, and McArthur. In that order.

    Tanks Rule!

  • Pleasuredome

    apologies to francios

    with limited time at the library im reading posts way too quickly.

    pleasuredome. duh

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