"Every gun that is made,every rocket fired signifies,in the final sense,a theft from those who hunger and are not fed,those who are cold and are not clothed.This world in arms is not spending money
alone.It is spending the sweat of its laborers,the genius of its scientists,the hopes of its children...This not the way of life at all in any true sense.Under the cloud of war,it is humanity hanging on a cross of iron".
These remarks were made in a speech delivered by former President Dwight D.Eisenhower when he spoke before the American Society of Newspaper Editors in 1953.
He was severely criticized for it because he was a West Point graduate.
That was 50 years ago.If he was alive today,what do you think his remarks would be now.BTW. His Mother was of the anointed and the family use to have bible studies in their home and were associated with Jehovah's Witnesses back when he was a 5 star General during world war two.He then later became President of the U.S.A. Blueblades
Talk about taking a statement out of context. Remember, he helped defeat Hitler by "going to war." No one wants war, but sometime we must.
What would the World have been like if we would have stopped Hitler in Munic?
And that ain't all. The greatest military genius ever produced by this country, perhaps the greatest military genius ever produced on this planet: Douglas MacArthur frequently and in no uncertain terms made references to "the utter futility of war."
It's only the politicians who think things can be resolved by fighting. And this starts with the schoolyard bully.
I hear that jimmy carter, nelson mandella, and the pope are against the coming iraq massacre. But i'm not quoting those guys. Here are some words from that counterculture nut frank zappa.
Dumb All Over by Frank Zappa...
Whoever we are Wherever we're from We shoulda noticed by now Our behavior is dumb And if our chances Expect to improve It's gonna take a lot more Than tryin' to remove The other race Or the other whatever >From the face Of the planet altogether They call it THE EARTH Which is a dumb kinda name But they named it right 'Cause we behave the same... *We are dumb all over* Dumb all over, Yes we are Dumb all over, Near 'n far Dumb all over, Black 'n white People, we is not wrapped tight Nerds on the left Nerds on the right Religous fanatics On the air every night Sayin' the Bible Tells the story Makes the details Sound real gory 'Bout what to do If the geeks over there Don't believe in the book We got over here You can't run a race Without no feet 'N pretty soon There won't be no street For dummies to jog on Or doggies to dog on Religous fanatics Can make it be all gone (I mean it won't blow up 'N disappear It'll just look ugly For a thousand years...) You can't run a country By a book of religion Not by a heap Or a lump or a smidgeon Of foolish rules Of ancient date Designed to make You all feel great While you fold, spindle And mutilate Those unbelievers >From a neighboring state TO ARMS! TO ARMS! Hooray! That's great Two legs ain't bad Unless there's a crate They ship the parts To mama in For souvenirs: two ears *(Get Down!) Not his, not hers, *(but what the hey?) The Good Book says: ("It gotta be that way!") But their book says: "REVENGE THE CRUSADES... With whips 'n chains 'N hand grenades..." TWO ARMS? TWO ARMS? Have another and another Our God says: "There ain't no other!" Our God says "It's all okay!" Our God says "This is the way!" It says in the book: "Burn 'n destroy... 'N repent, 'n redeem 'N revenge, 'n deploy 'N rumble thee forth To the land of the unbelieving scum on the other side 'Cause they don't go for what's in the book 'N that makes 'em BAD So verily we must choppeth them up And stompeth them down Or rent a nice French bomb To poof them out of existence While leaving their real estate just where we need it To use again For temples in which to praise OUR GOD* ("Cause he can really take care of business!") And when his humble TV servant With humble white hair And humble glasses And a nice brown suit And maybe a blond wife who takes phone calls Tells us our God says It's okay to do this stuff Then we gotta do it, 'Cause if we don't do it, We ain't gwine up to *hebbin!* (Depending on which book you're using at the time...Can't use theirs... it don't work ...it's all lies...Gotta use mine...) Ain't that right? That's what they say Every night... Every day... Hey, we can't really be dumb If we're just following *God's Orders Hey, let's get serious... God knows what he's doin' He wrote this book here An' the book says: He made us all to be just like Him, so... If we're dumb... Then God is dumb... (An' maybe even a little ugly on the side)
Edited by - saintsatan on 4 February 2003 5:6:14
Eisenhower, greatest military genius ever produced on this planet?
Rommel, Duke of Wellington, Napoleon, Nelson, Drake, Alexander the Great, Rameses II, Cromwell, Julius Ceaser.... the list goes on.
if any of the above was the greatest, it would be Alexander. hardly comprable to Eisenhower. duh.
if any of the above was the greatest, it would be Alexander
Yet, one must question the wisdom in accepting advice from someone who only lived to 32.
francois was speaking of macarthur, not eisenhower...duh.
Edited by - dubla on 4 February 2003 11:29:5
I'd take Rommel, Patton, and McArthur. In that order.
apologies to francios
with limited time at the library im reading posts way too quickly.