Should JWs have Permit to Pass Wine on Nisan 14?

by Scully 3 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Scully

    Elsewhere's thread gave me an idea:

    This is a form put out by the Alcohol and Gaming Commission of Ontario to request a Special Occasion Permit to serve alcohol.

    I tried to upload some scanned images of the form to, but it's not working for me today.

    Notice that even if NO sales of alcohol take place on the premises, there is possibly a fee of $25 for a "No Sale" religious event.

    Also note that the licence must be displayed during the entirety of the event.

    Notice also the $25,000 fine that can be imposed for failure to acquire an appropriate licence.

    I'm wondering if some places already obtain these kinds of permits, considering the experiences some of us have had with being refused entry to the Memorial. These forms specifically state that such events are restricted to invited guests only.

    Wouldn't it be interesting to have every KH raided on Nisan 14 and the elders given a $25K fine for serving alcohol without the appropriate Special Occasion Permit?

    Love, Scully

  • blondie

    The use of wine at religious ceremonies has been handled differently in the US. In the US during Prohibition, wineries were still allowed to manufacture sacerdotal wine for the use in religious ceremonies. Of course, the amount increased tremendously out of proportion to people's true religious feelings, but it was permitted to be manufactured and distributed when all else was a federal crime.


  • NeonMadman

    I think they'd have a hard time enforcing the fines in court, since if they chose to apply these laws exclusively to JW's and not to all other Christian religions that have communion services, it would be clearly seen as discriminatory. Unless, of course, other religions are required to purchase permits, and the JW's aren't doing so. But, from the sound of it, I suspect that those laws are aimed at functions like church fairs and bazaars, where alcoholic beverages might be sold and/or served - not at communion services.

  • Abaddon

    Amerindians can use Peyote as part of their religious observances. It's the law.

    Great idea (doing them for being an unlicensed premises) but it ain't gonna fly (unlike Amerindians).

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