the thing i find strange

by pepperheart 7 Replies latest watchtower child-abuse

  • pepperheart
    The thing i find strange is that lots of JWs seem as though they dont even want to hear godfrey jackson speak on friday can a member of the GB say somthing that is asposate lol
  • StarTrekAngel
    He definitely can. Many could be stumbled if he gives in to the demands of the commission, just as much as many could be stumbled if he doesn't.
  • defender of truth
    defender of truth

    Just email them the link to the transcript of what he said. Maybe say he gave 'a fine witness'.

    Would they have been afraid of watching Jesus in court?

    (Had to leave space in the link or page goes funny)

    Transcript will be here:


  • CalebInFloroda

    This is due to the effects that ideological fanaticism can have on people. It is also a sign that things have indeed started to deteriorate, even if we don't think so now.

    When Imperial Japan was under the control of Empreror worship ideology in WWII, it was very difficult for the people to hear the Emperor speak on the radio and declare defeat. Some didn't think it was even scientifically possible. Others attempted a military coup to try to prevent the Emperor from doing so because they felt it was being heretical. Some people killed themselves instead of hearing the Emperor declare defeat.

    Even though the Emperor's surrender speech to the people of Japan was spoken using a dialect a bit too archaic for most common people of Japan to understand, the reports are that most felt a horrific shame at listening even to the sound of his voice. Many fell to their knees and wept. Others report of the horrific shame they felt. This meant their deity was human and their religion a farce and that their religion was wrong. For many it was just too unbelievable a burden to even listen.

    Do you want to listen to people who tell you that your choice to leave the JWs was wrong? Of course not. But could you imagine what that would be like, that all us exJWs were indeed wrong, and that on Friday we were going to be presented with further evidence (not just the first evidence but further evidence) of how wrong we have been? Would you readily want to hear the final death knolls that rang out "I told you so"? It wouldn't be easy, and if you could avoid it you likely would. No one wants to be present for their own execution.

    People lost to an ideology respond this way. They cannot accept when reality comes around and announces them as undeniably mistaken. They will do everything to block out reality, everything necessary to preserve the illusion.

  • brandnew
    Its like anheiser-busch saying " this bud aint for you"....😢
  • FatFreek 2005
    FatFreek 2005
    Or am·ne·sia-busch saying I simply can't remember.
  • pusername

    Victoria, Australia: Report on Oct. 11th hearing involving Steven Unthank

    ...a quote from previous discussion:

    "The Watchtower Society and Vincent Toole Solicitors then presented rebuttal argument that the "faithful and discreet slave" did not exist but were nothing more than a:-

    "theological arrangement"

    A massive gasp could be heard emanating from the gallery from amongst a group of Jehovah's Witnesses who had attended to watch the hearing. It is worth noting that Jehovah's Witnesses are taught that to deny the "faithful and discreet slave" is to deny the Christ and that those who deny the Christ are the antichrist.

    The Watchtower Society and Vincent Toole Solicitors then turned on the Christian Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses and denied that they existed or operated within Victoria and Australia. The magistrate did not accept this argument and, after seeking approval from Steven Unthank, adjourned all the court hearings for four weeks.

    Simply put, the Watchtower Society and Vincent Toole Solicitors denied the existence of the "faithful and discreet slave" and denied the existence of the Christian congregation arrangement. What is also interesting in the entire court case to date is that it was the Watchtower Society and their in-house lawyers that brought theology and religion into the court room.

    It is possible that sometime in the future there could be a very serious courtroom hearing in which the whole existence of the "faithful and discreet slave" is argued but not in the way any Jehovah's Witness could imagine. Unless the WTS backs down, or the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses step in and defend their faith, then we could see Steven Unthank actually defending the existence of the FDS and the beliefs of Jehovah's Witnesses in open public court while the WTS and their lawyers, with the backing of the Governing Body, deny the existence of the FDS and maybe even the Christian congregation. And if such a courtroom drama ever unfolds, then at any given time Steven Unthank could back down and the FDS become no more than a never existing group of imaginary Christians who are really nothing more than a convenient "theological arrangement" whom Jehovah's Witnesses mistakenly believe exist and are their spiritual leaders who care about them."

  • sparrowdown

    Underneath, many JWs are afraid they will hear something that will challenge their view, of God's holy people.

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