WT Lawyer trying to force His Honour to allow Miss Apple to garner more info showing how good WT is

by umbertoecho 18 Replies latest watchtower scandals

  • AFRIKANMAN
    AFRIKANMAN

    From Page 89 of Day 4 Transcript - onwards:

    Q. As his Honour has raised with you, one of the

    difficulties that has been experienced, and this is no

    fault of your own and no criticism of you, but the opinion

    expressed in paragraph 36 is a compendious opinion,

    obviously based upon what you have read and your

    experience. Would it be of assistance to you if you were

    able to provide a more fulsome, perhaps supplementary

    report expressing the reasons and setting out the

    documentation that you relied upon in coming to the

    conclusion in paragraph 36?

    A. It's a small research project, and so I haven't had an

    opportunity to do that, where I laid out the years and the

    different organisations and the practices that are in

    place. If it was helpful to the court, then I could do

    that.

    Q. So if his Honour were to give permission for you to

    provide a supplementary opinion, you would be prepared to

    undertake the task of setting out in a more fulsome way the

    reasons you have for reaching that opinion?

    A. If I were asked to, yes.

    .31/07/2015 (150) M L APPLEWHITE (Mr Tokley)

    Transcript produced by DTI

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    THE CHAIR: Mr Tokley, I can appreciate why you ask the

    question, but the issue for us at the end of the day is not

    who is best.

    MR TOKLEY: Understood, your Honour.

    THE CHAIR: What we have agreed, I think, is that there

    are some problems with the current structure of the

    processes. That's clear.

    Q. Am I right?

    A. Yes.

    THE CHAIR:

    Q. We have agreed that.

    Now, I don't know of any other religious organisation

    which, which is how this is framed, which has the processes

    with the flaws that we have identified in the Jehovah's

    Witnesses. They may have other flaws - indeed, we have

    published some reports about other religious organisations

    already. So certainly if you wish the doctor to do that

    work, that's appropriate.

    MR TOKLEY: Thank you, your Honour.

    THE CHAIR: But I have to warn you, at the end of the day

    the question is not who wins the competition, and what will

    remain, as I understand at the moment, are the flaws in

    your client's current processes.

    MR TOKLEY: That's understood, your Honour, but

    Dr Applewhite is here to assist the Commission. As

    Dr Applewhite has said, she is not an advocate for any

    party, and we consider that it would be, if it is of

    assistance to the Commission, it should be offered to the

    Commission.

    THE CHAIR: What would be of greatest assistance is not an

    expression of opinion as to who is best and who is worst,

    but an expression of opinion as to what are the good things

    and what are the bad things, both in the Jehovah's

    Witnesses and in any else's processes, you understand?

  • smiddy
    smiddy

    Next week should be very interesting with a couple ? of ex JW elders to be heard from

    smiddy

  • besty
    besty
    I haven't got the transcript to hand but from memory the Judge finished up by saying something like "whoever makes a submission such as you have suggested should be aware they are missing the point" - legend!
  • truthsetsonefree
    truthsetsonefree

    I just saw that! I loved the way Eugene McClellan handled that. All the JWs want to do is change the subject and glorify themselves rather than admitting to how backwards their policies really are.

    Isaac

  • ScenicViewer
    ScenicViewer

    Watchtower thought they were going to lawyer their way through this. Surprise!

    I love this Commission.

  • zeb
    zeb

    What possible new evidence could the wt/lawyers have to present now? Answer: I guess what they have done is conjure up a new litany of obfuscation and delaying tactics using the "bullshit baffles brains" theory.

    Fortunately the Chair isn't copping it.

  • JWdaughter
    JWdaughter
    I like this commission. They dont care if your turd is more polished than the next guys-they still recognize a turd for what it is.
  • Vidiot
    Vidiot

    Tokley - "That's understood, your Honour, but Dr. Applewhite is here to assist the Commission. As Dr. Applewhite has said, she is not an advocate for any party, and we consider that it would be, if it is of assistance to the Commission."

    Wait...

    ...didn't Applewhite confirm under oath that the WTS had specifically hired her?

  • umbertoecho
    umbertoecho

    What is that scripture that speaks of "giving a fine witness before Princes and Kings and authorities......" Iv'e gone blank at the moment. Only a few weeks ago I was informed that the organization is proud of it's ability to use such public platforms to promote beliefs and honour Jehovah.

    This is not happening at the RC, they are not interested in being told how to think. And they don't appreciate that everyone of the elders on the witness stand has had a severe dose of amnesia, even when the document is right there, right under their stinking noses.....WT thought they could do a bit of witnessing at this RC,. Yes! Really! They have pumped themselves up to give a "fine testimony". The problem is...they forgot that they were in the "real world", where rules not of their making apply.

    Seriously people. The WT truly thought they were home and hosed with this RC. They were so complacent, so confident that I imagine they have outlines for how bloody brilliant they are...........all ready for the printing press, internet, broadcasting.........What will they do now?

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