The Report - BBC Radio 4 about Jehovah's Witnesses and Child Sexual Abuse can now be heard

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  • disposable hero of hypocrisy
    disposable hero of hypocrisy
    Heyyyy welcome back slimboy fat!
  • Tornintwo
    Tornintwo

    I talked to a c.o. About these reports and the responses were

    'dont believe everything you hear in the news' and you know there is a saying among journalists 'don't let the truth get in the way of a good story'.

    then when the high court decision came out against jws, in London bethel morning worship they apparently told the bethelite, 'don't believe everything you read/hear' and told them that the complainant was 'an apostate'.

    my answers:' if this story was about the Catholic Church you would be lapping it up' And, 'that girl is a victim!'

  • life is to short
    life is to short

    Thank you so much Barbara. I am so glad that for all that you do.

    Thank you, thank you.

    LITS

  • freddo
    freddo
    Yes, huge thanks to Barbara! Hip, Hip, Hooray!
  • JW GoneBad
    JW GoneBad
    This thread and the BBC report about WT's child sex problems is like Christmas anytime for me. For this month...it's Christmas in July. Thank you Barbara for keeping us informed.
  • smiddy
    smiddy

    The BBC Radio 4 program , and now the Royal Commission into Child Sex Abuse in Australia is under way ,hopefully other countries will start looking at this excuse for a religion .

    And maybe the general population will be more mindful of just who it is knocking on their door under the guise of religion .

    smiddy

  • Splash
    Splash
    'dont believe everything you hear in the news' and you know there is a saying among journalists 'don't let the truth get in the way of a good story'.

    These aren't stories, and this isn't the media.

    A JW can log on and watch each elder testify in person. This is the source of the information being reported, not apostates.

    The WT are being systematically exposed world wide in the way they most feared, and even with the opportunity to defend themselves they are further confirming their own guilt.
    The evidence is irrefutable. No GB sermon can hide this any longer. Every JW will have to face this reality.

    Jesus put it best in Matthew 10:26 "So do not fear them, for there is nothing covered over that will not become uncovered, and nothing secret that will not become known."


  • InquiryMan
    InquiryMan

    I guess that is way an article entitles «The Naive Person Believes Everyt Word» was published in the October study version of the Watchtower... in a futile effort to prevent such news to be spread among the witnesses.

    “The Naive Person Believes Every Word”

    “Foolish is the man who never reads a newspaper; even more foolish is the man who believes what he reads just because it is in the newspaper.”

    —August von Schlözer, German historian and publicist (1735-1809).

    If a person could not trust everything that was written in a newspaper over 200 years ago, the same applies to much of what can be read on the Internet in the 21st century. A huge amount of information—true and false, useful and worthless, harmless and dangerous—is now available, thanks to modern technology. We must be very selective about what we consider worthy of our attention. Especially could those who are new to the Internet conclude that a report or a news item, however strange or sensational, is true simply because it is online or because a friend sent it via e-mail. For good reason, the Bible warns: “The naive person believes every word, but the shrewd one ponders each step.”—Proverbs 14:15.

    How can we become “shrewd” and identify hoaxes, urban legends, swindles, and other misinformation that may appear on our computer screens? First, ask yourself: ‘Is the item from an official, reliable website or from a blog or an unknown source? Has it already been exposed on anti-hoax websites?’ *

    [Footnote.] * Be aware that previously exposed hoaxes and urban legends resurface now and then, sometimes slightly altered to make them appear genuine. [End of Footnote.]

    Then, use “good sense.” (Proverbs 7:7) If a news item seems unbelievable, it probably is. Furthermore, when the information discredits others, think about who would benefit from such news being spread and whether the source has ulterior motives in spreading it.

    Compulsive Forwarders

    Some—often in search of attention—are fixated on being the first to spread news and forward it to all their contacts without checking its authenticity or considering the consequences. (2 Samuel 13:28-33) However, if we are “shrewd,” we will think about the possible damage this could cause, perhaps to the reputation of a person or an organization.

    It takes effort to verify news. That is why some decide simply to leave it up to the recipient to determine if it is credible. But how much time will it take for him to do that? Time is precious. (Ephesians 5:15, 16) Instead of thinking, “If in doubt, send it out,” it would be better to adopt the motto, “If in doubt, throw it out!”

    Ask yourself: ‘Have I become a compulsive forwarder of e-mails? Have I ever had to write my contacts to apologize for having sent them information that turned out to be incorrect or an outright lie? Has anyone ever asked me to stop forwarding e-mails?’ Remember that whoever is on your e-mail contact list also has access to the Internet and is therefore able to look for things of interest without your help. They do not need to be inundated with funny stories, video clips, or slide shows. It is also unwise to forward recordings or transcripts of Bible talks. *

    [Footnote.] * See Our Kingdom Ministry, April 2010, “Question Box.” [End of Footnote.]

    Furthermore, forwarding research material, verses extracted for Bible study, or answers to use at congregation meetings would detract from the value of each individual’s personal preparation.

    And what should you do if you find slanderous news about Jehovah’s organization on the Internet? Such material should be firmly rejected. Some feel that they must bring it to the attention of others to get their opinion, but all that does is propagate the malicious information. If we feel troubled about something we see on the Internet, we should ask Jehovah for wisdom and speak to mature brothers about it. (James 1:5, 6; Jude 22, 23) Jesus, who was the object of false accusations, warned his followers that enemies would persecute them and “lyingly say every sort of wicked thing against [them].” (Matthew 5:11; 11:19; John 10:19-21) We need to use “thinking ability” and “discernment” to identify “the man speaking perverse things” and those “whose entire course is devious.”—Proverbs 2:10-16.

    Respect the Right of Others

    We also have to be careful about news or experiences of a spiritual nature that we receive secondhand. Even if a report is true, it does not necessarily mean that it should be spread. There may be times when it would be neither right nor loving to distribute true accounts to others. (Matthew 7:12) For example, it is neither loving nor upbuilding to spread gossip, even though the information may be true. (2 Thessalonians 3:11; 1 Timothy 5:13) Some news may be of a confidential nature, and we should respect the right of others to divulge the information at the proper time through the appropriate channels. Spreading information ahead of time can do much harm.

    Today it is possible to spread news—true or false, useful or worthless, harmless or dangerous—at an incredible speed. Anyone who sends an e-mail or a text to even one person has to realize that whether it was intended or not, the content could travel all over the world in a flash. May we therefore resist the urge to forward information quickly and indiscriminately. When we read sensational news items, remember that love is not unduly suspicious; nor is it naive or gullible. Above all, love refuses to believe malevolent insinuations about Jehovah’s organization or lies about our brothers that are circulated by people who are slaves to “the father of the lie,” Satan the Devil. (John 8:44; 1 Corinthians 13:7) Thinking ability and discernment will help us become “shrewd” and consider how to handle responsibly the increasing amount of information available to us on a daily basis. As the Bible says, “the naive will inherit foolishness, but the shrewd are crowned with knowledge.”—Proverbs 14:18.

    Pictures on pages 30, 31: Should I forward a sensational e-mail to someone else?

    Box on page 32

    [Box.] Questions to Ask Yourself Before You Hit Send:

    Is this information from a reliable source?

    Is this information confidential?

    Will this information damage someone’s reputation?

    Has anyone ever asked me to stop forwarding e-mails? [End of Box.]

    For further information, please visit our website at www.jw.org.

    The End


  • Splash
    Splash

    This week and next is a bad time to be out in field service in Australia.

    Thankfully most pioneers will have got their hours in by now, so they will all be taking time off from the ministry.

    I wouldn't want to be stood on a witnessing trolley today. Might as well paint a target on my head.

    Even if JW's refuse to watch this themselves, they cannot insulate themselves from the discussions and consequences of this devastating exposé. It will be more discussed by the worldwide congregation than the GB's release of their new Bible, and the aftershocks will be far greater.

  • Vidiot
    Vidiot
    Jeezus, I thought 2012 was a bad year for the WTS.

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