Perhaps Eve was really a Neanderthal!

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  • skeeter1
    skeeter1

    Heard this researcher on Dr. Radio, and wanted to share the story. Science keeps blowing away the pre-Biblical notion of Adam and Eve.

    Skeeter

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    The DNA from the 45,000-year-old bone of a man from Siberia is helping to pinpoint when modern humans and Neanderthals first interbred, researchers say.

    Although modern humans are the only surviving human lineage, others once lived on Earth. The closest extinct relatives of modern humans were the Neanderthals, who lived in Europe and Asia until they went extinct about 40,000 years ago. Recent findings revealed that Neanderthals interbred with ancestors of modern humans when modern humans began spreading out of Africa 1.5 to 2.1 percent of the DNA of anyone living outside Africa today is Neanderthal in origin.

    It remains uncertain when interbreeding between modern humans and Neanderthals occurred. Previous estimates of these events ranged from 37,000 to 86,000 years ago. [See Photos of Humanity's Closest Relative]

    To help solve this mystery, scientists analyzed the shaft of a thighbone found by an artist and mammoth ivory collector, Nikolai Peristov, on the left bank of the river Irtysh near the settlement of Ust'-Ishim in western Siberia in 2008. They calculated the age of the man's bone to be about 45,000 years old.

    "This is the earliest directly dated modern human outside of Africa and the Middle East, and the oldest modern human [genome] to have been sequenced," study co-author Janet Kelso, a computational biologist at the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology in Leipzig, Germany, told Live Science.

    Previously, scientists had suggested modern humans colonized Asia first by traveling a more southern, coastal route that gave rise to the present-day people of Oceania, while a later, more northern migration, gave rise to mainland Asians. The fact the researchers find direct evidence for the presence of a modern human in Siberia 45,000 years ago "indicates that early modern human migrations into Eurasia were not solely via a southern route as has been previously suggested," Kelso said.

    Analysis of the carbon and nitrogen isotopes in his bones suggest the man ate so-called C3 plants that dominate cooler, wetter, cloudier regions examples of which include garlic, eggplants, pears, beans and wheat as well as animals that also dined on C3 plants. However, this analysis also revealed he may have eaten aquatic foods, probably freshwater fish, something seen in other humans from Europe of about the same time.

    Genetic analysis of DNA from the bone revealed this man was equally closely related to present-day Asians and to early Europeans. "From this we conclude that the population to which the Ust'-Ishim individual belonged diverged from the ancestors of present-day Europeans and Asians before, or at around the same time as, these groups diverged from one another," Kelso said.

    The scientists also found this man carried a similar level of Neanderthal ancestry as present-day Eurasians. Their research suggests Neanderthal genes flowed into the ancestors of this man 7,000 to 13,000 years before he lived.

    These findings suggest modern humans and Neanderthals interbred approximately 50,000 to 60,000 years ago, "which is close to the time of the major expansion of modern humans out of Africa and the Middle East," Kelso said.

    Future research may strive to sequence the genomes "from even older human remains," Kelso said. "We are also really interested in what functional implications the Neanderthal DNA in present-day people might have had in the adaptation of present-day humans to their new environments."

    The scientists detailed their findings in the Oct. 23 issue of the journal Nature.

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  • sloppyjoe2
    sloppyjoe2

    You know when I was younger and believed in adam and eve, I tried to picture just what a "perfect" woman must have looked like. I had quite a few crushes on some super models that I already considered perfect, but eve must have looked even better than them.....Now...you've ruined it!

  • DATA-DOG
    DATA-DOG

    Perhaps Eve was a Denisovan?? She may have been the offspring of Neanderthal and a Denisovan.

  • Phizzy
    Phizzy

    I have recently wondered if the bit of the myth where Adam calls her "Bone of my bone and flesh of my flesh" , signalling his approval of her and her looks, was a folk memory of when humans diverged from Neanderthals, and were not nearly so hairy.

    Did "Adam" not like really hairy women ?

  • Vidiot
    Vidiot

    Phizzy - "Did 'Adam' not like really hairy women?"

    Of course not.

    According to Gimli in The Lord of the Rings, "it's the dwarves that go swimmin' with little hairy women!"

  • nancy drew
    nancy drew

    The mysterious history of our origin continues as the new discoveries pour in and denial of the findings to hang on to some biblical interpretation is ridiculous.

  • SonoftheTrinity
    SonoftheTrinity

    From Ham Shem and Japheth to Sapiens Neanderthalensis and Desinovensis.

  • skeeter1
    skeeter1

    My JW parents, especially my JW mom, explained it to me like this (honest):

    "Adam was white, anglo saxon. But, Eve was of mixed races in her genes. . . . "

    Need I say more of why I stopped seeing my parents as role models about the time I was 14 years old! Geeeezzzzz . . . .

  • Hortensia
    Hortensia

    Adam was white, but Eve was of mixed races? Holy cow.

    Of course, my mother once said, after watching a documentary about Koko the gorilla, that it wasn't possible because god said so. Even though she had just watched the gorilla communicate with sign language. Arghh.

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