by caroline77 7 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
I asked a JW why most of them don't partake of the bread and wine at their memorial, and was told that the command was given to the disciples only.
At the end of Matthew's gospel, the command is given to the 11 disciples to go out and preach to everyone, so why do those who don't take the bread and wine go out knocking doors preaching?
Surely if only the disciples can take the emblems then only the disciples should preach.
No explanation of where the 144,000 come into it was given.
that is where the wt hook comes in. The 'disciples, 144k are commanded to preach, but they cant do it alone, so the so-called 'othersheep' have to help, and by helping the 'brothers' they get to be on the right hand of christ in the judgement to come--
or else.
wrong on every count.
Then maybe the other sheep should help them partake of the bread and wine, no?
they are called "companions" from the --friends that eat BREAD PANE, PAIN together---. CO-BREAD-ians.
Good question!!!
Why would the "annointed" need "other help"?
(Luke 19:40) . . .But in reply he said: "I tell YOU, If these remained silent, the stones would cry out."
Better yet.....
(Matthew 24:27) 27 For just as the lightning comes out of eastern parts and shines over to western parts, so the presence of the Son of man will be.
(Matthew 24:30) . . .And then the sign of the Son of man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will beat themselves in lamentation, and they will see the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.. . .
That's the hook. The 144,000 represents the nation of "spiritual Israel"--it is plainly written right in your LIE-ble. Those are to get the reward. Everyone under them is not to partake, yet they are to be SLAVES to the spiritual nation! Yup, slaves--under a strictly communist government. It is written right in the damnation book itself that the common people will live under "spiritual Israel" with "the New Jerusalem" ruling them. Reading Daniel, they discuss that statue--where that communist kingdom will rule with an iron fist. Through the whole book, you see how this communist government is going to seize the world and rule with that iron fist--one slip up, you die.
Effectively, when you go to this REJECT Astaroth Party, you are rejecting freedom. You are agreeing to live in this communist state, a slave to those 144,000 that make up "spiritual Israel". You are acknowledging that you are a slave to this New Jerusalem, which according to jokehovian doctrine is in heaven, and you agree to do whatever unreasonable thing this totalitarian, communist state demands without question. You don't expect any reward--you are rejecting that, too, when you reject the emblems. Just being enslaved.
One way to reject this slavery is not going. If you don't already have one, I recommend everyone that can afford one get a Ouija board on April 14 in protest to this enslavement. You might get a deck of Tarot cards, or whatever book you see fit to learn astrology or witchcraft. You might visit the Joy of Satan website and browse the Exposing Christianity section therein during the REJECT Astaroth Party instead of going. That way, while everyone else is fighting to park at the Kingdumb Hell, you are clicking onto something that could teach you something about Christi-SCAM-ity. While they are listening to another boring 45-minute talk, you are getting insight on the religion that is threatening to plunge the whole world into full communism. While they are mindlessly passing the emblems, instead of merely hoping against hope for a wine spill, you are reading where the whole xian platform came from. While they are being hounded to pious-sneer or to attend all boasting sessions, you are being directed to more useful information. And while they are scrambling to get out of the place at the end, you are simply preparing to have your whole belief system shaken and analyzed, followed by being pxxxed for having been lied to.
Good point!
What do you think about John 6?
How many times did Jesus state If anyone? and eternal or live forever.
It was offerred to a mixed crowd,great crowd. It was the Jews with good reasoning rejected what he was stating. They did not understand! Yet in Acts many believed including Jewish.
John 6
50 But here is the bread that comes down from heaven,
which a man may eat and not die. 51 I am the living bread that came down from heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever.
Later they prepared for the Passover where Jesus example of the new covenant.
Asked the brother how does one know he/she should partake?
As far as preaching, it is the same simple bibical concept.
Anyone who believes in Jesus should teach everything that Jesus taught! Paul states a few things to preach. Paul Last Supper All partook.
Also they were bowing to Jesus when he said,"All power and authority was given to him!"
One more thought,
I did not realize for many years that the JWs only believe New Testament scriptures and Pauls congregations were the 144,000. So the NT and Pauls writing were not fir the great crowd! They were 144,000. I think that is just made up bull! It was a wake up call. And it is how elders know who are apostates.
So asking your questions now marks you!
Have a look at Ephesians 4 v 4-6. There is only one hope, not two. It's worth researching 'hope'. I can recommend downloading a copy of e-sword.
