The faithful and discreet slave's proctologist

by Terry 8 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

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  Terry

  We are told we cannot sit down with the Bible and discover the "Truth" because we need the faithful and discreet slave's channeled knowledge.

  So, logically, if we can't get the Truth from the Bible we are getting it from the slave who isn't getting from the Bible.

  Where is the faithful and discreet slave getting the Truth?

  See the topic Title for your answer.

  Yes, the proctologist sees the real channel of communication the Watchtower society has!

  They are pulling it of their ass.
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  Phizzy

  No wonder it is such a steaming pile then !
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  Narcissistic Supply

  Gives new meaning to the term 'Gaslighting."
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  Nathan Natas

  Terry observed, "So, logically, if we can't get the Truth from the Bible we are getting it from the slave who isn't getting from the Bible."

  Right on!
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  bjc2read

  Thanks Terry for your commentary above. I really enjoyed it!

  It's a definite fact that they [GB/Watchtower Society] don't encourage independent study of the Bible, and of course we know the reason why. And it is not because a person could not learn the truth if they follow the advice given in Proverbs "to search for it as one would for hidden treasures." I am reminded of this passage from the book of Proverbs which plainly tells us:

  • "if, moreover, you call out for understanding itself and you give forth your voice for discernment itself, if you keep seeking for it as for silver, and as for hid treasures you keep searching for, in that case you will understand the fear of Jehovah, and YOU WILL FIND THE VERY OF KNOWLEDGE OF GOD." -- Proverbs 2:3-5 New World Translation

  So the bible gives us the direct answer to this question, of whether one [an JW individual or anyone else for that matter] person can truly find the "truth" or not by personal effort or not. Can it be done through intense personal effort on an individual's part? The Watchtower says no. But what does the bible say about this. The bible answers, "yes." The bible gives each individual the answer to this question. But, we simply must be willing to do something. We must be willing to really, "search" for it, like looking for "silver" or "hid treatures," which means intense personal effort on all of our parts. But, the Watchtower Society or the Governing Body, cannot stop or retard this process. Its all up the individual and His Creator, and that's it. And Jehovah and Jesus always know who really, really searching for it, like "hid treatures" and who are not. They know. Which means, this wicked viewpoint of the Governing Body/Watchtower Society is simply a Satanic "ploy," an obvious ploy by the GB [to tell people they and only them, can correctly intrepret the bible for all other people] to keep people from reading the Bible for themselves and learning. Incidentally I must add, this has really worked on most JWs and got them to do precisely that. They must stay ignorant, the way the WTBTS wants to be. (1 Cor. 14:38) They are told, to "Wait on Jehovah" and also, "Wait" on the "Slave" too, to understand the "deep things" about the bible, which is a big, big mistake if we listen to this garbage. -- 1 Cor. 2:10 I also think this evil ploy works on people because most people don't really want to put forth the necessary effort it takes to learn "hid treasures" from the Bible. So this diabolical ploy plays right into the hands of the GB/Watchtower perfectly. Most JWs are just lazy about bible study. Its much easier to just let the Watchtower do all their thinking for them. For example, I was surprised my own mother bought into this "ploy" too, by telling me one day she didn't really study or read the bible much, because she couldn't understand it. Now mind you, this lady had been an active, baptized Jehovah's Witness since 1947, and that's what she told me. Of course, I didn't agree with her and told her so. We all know its the GB's main agenda to discourage individuals from studying the Bible, once they join the JW movement. They also, don't want you to go to college too, so that you will not learn how to "THINK' either. (I attended college myself, gained two degrees for myself, despite their foolish protests. My father insisted on higher education for all his children.) They don't need those type of people around, educated people, educated in the bible knowledge or higher secular education either. They don't want either kind around the "Kingdumb Hall," do they? They want you to stay "dumb" and let them do all the thinking. Because, if you can learn the bible on your own, then you don't need them to tell you what to believe. (As many already know, the little understanding they have of what the bible teaches, can be gleaned by anyone who would take the time to study it.) When a circuit overseer's wife told me that Matthew 28:18 didn't mean what I thought it meant, that was because my understanding was not the same as what the GB said it meant. So while I'm in field service, if I don't explain a verse the way they do, then I don't have truth. Therefore it's a waste of time for me to read the Bible on my own, in their opinion. And we know the operative word from the GB is "Obey me" and only me. For example this latest statement from an upcoming magazine: here is the link to the Watchtower's Comment from the latest Nov. 15th, 2013 issue... http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/w20131115/seven-shepherds-eight-dukes/ Paragraph 17

  • "At that time, the life-saving direction that we receive from Jehovah’s organization may not appear practical from a human standpoint. All of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive ,whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not. (4) Now is the time for any who may be putting their trust in secular education, material things, or human institutions to adjust their thinking. The elders must stand ready to help any who may now be wavering in their faith. "

  End of quote. 'Nuff said. Thanks again, for your comment.
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  Terry

  It slowly creeps up on a person who is aware of the history of the Church that the Bible wasn't that important for fifteen hundred years.

  When the Protestant revolution broke disenfranchised believers off from the institute of that governing body what was it going

  to replace magisterium with?

  That, my friends, is when the Bible became important.

  It was theorized by Luther and others that all a faithful Christian needed was God's Holy Spirit when studying the Bible.

  The unvarnished true faith would be handed over through such study, prayer and open-hearted examination of the written word.

  The Catholic Church, of course, saw that it needed reform. Eventually they were back in business with magisterium and tradition of the Apostles.

  Protestantism, on the other hand, using just the Bible alone with Holy Spirit (presumably) came up with WHAT?

  Competing DENOMINATIONS!
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  Finkelstein

  And individual interpretation, which some men put into print and publicly try to distribute it themselves.

  But as these proclaiming doctrines fail such as concerning the WTS., those men in charge of the organization just push it off as being

  a probability of simply being imperfect.

  What a game to play even when you lose you still come out winners in the long run.

  The only losers to this game called spin the religion, were the poor naive people who got sucked into be supporting participants.
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  Narcissistic Supply

  NEW YAUGHTS!!! WE JUST LOVE THIS IDEA!!!!
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  Finkelstein

  The inherent doctrines of the WTS. Corporation has always been adulterated commercial fabrications, exploiting the belief

  in the bible for its own marketing agenda. The JWs is a dangerous cult that has killed thousands and broken apart millions

  of families, all for a bunch of disingenuous power seeking men running a publishing house. It might be truthfully said that

  the WTS. created its false bible interpretations to keep the proliferation of its published goods constant and appealing to the

  general public .

  But as with any business they have protection policies created to put out people who find out and speak up about these

  created lies and corruption at the hands of the leading editorial writers..

  The WTS. FDSL are really faithful and a slave to the organization which they belong to, which was created by disingenuous men

  running and operating a publishing house.