by Terry 4 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Terry

    Interesting factoid:


    If you ask the average bible reader to name the "important" prophets you'd come up with a list something like this one:

    The major prophets of the Hebrew Bible were:

    Hosea or Hoshea
    Joel or Yo'el
    Obadiah or Ovadyah
    Jonah or Yonah
    Micah or Mikhah
    Nahum or Nachum
    Habakkuk or Habaquq
    Zephaniah or Tsefania
    Haggai or Haggai
    Zechariah Zekharia
    Malachi or Malakhi


    The TALMUD says that there had been twice as many prophets as the number of people who left Egypt (2,600,000), but only those whose messages were for future generations were recorded. This count was 48 male and 7 female Prophets.

    What do you make of that fact?

    Do we need to stop and ask a few questions about HOW WE DEFINE the word PROPHET?

    1. a person (of either sex) who claims contact with the supernatural/divine and who purports to SPEAK FOR THEM

    2. human serving as an intermediator between the divine and humanity

    3. human entrusted to bestow special knowledge from a divine source

    What makes a prophet a PROPHET?
    Is that clear enough? When such a person (list above) speaks or writes a is called PROPHECY.


    Jews, Christians and Muslims have a matter-of-fact attitude about prophets and prophecy. They are monotheists.

    However, their view is historically VERY NARROW!

    In every civilization regardless of religion there are such prophets who have operated all through history!


    What if we were to step back and away from the NARROW view for a moment? Could we include other functions for a prophet

    and still be historically accurate? Were "true" prophets functioning other than predictors of the future (usual meaning)?


    List of Facts about Prophets:

    1. Targets of persecution and opposition by authorities in power whom the prophets had criticised

    2. Gave specific warnings about corruption and malfeasance in order to correct wrongful practices

    3. Called "seers" because prophets could see what authority was doing wrong and reporting it publicly

    4. Tertullian and Eusebius report the activity of prophets operating long after the death of the twelve original Apostles


    With the above information about prophets having been considered we can ask an important question or two.

    Can a religious body, group or organization do the work a prophet is said to do and correctly claim to NOT be a prophet?

    What if there was an organization that wanted all the respect, gravitas and authority possessed by a prophet of god while

    exempting itself from charges of FALSE PROPHET when its utterances failed? Would this group be guilty of trickery and blame-shifting?


    Deuteronomy 18:21-22

    King James Version (KJV)

    21 And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the Lord hath not spoken?

    22 When a prophet speaketh in the name of the Lord , if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.


    The Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses claims and has always claimed special privilege as: "the mouthpiece of God."

    This matches #1 on our list of definitions of PROPHET above.

    The Watchtower magazine has repeatedly emphasized the status of its Governing Body as intermediary charged with the duty of

    providing all the True teachings of Jehovah while demanding loyalty from obedient christians.

    This matches #2 on our list of definitions of PROPHET above.

    Throughout its history, Jehovah's Witnesses have received New Light, it claims, as special discrete knowledge of dates for Armageddon.

    This matches #3 on our list of definitions of PROPHET above.

    The 100% failure rate would seem to refute them as a prophet--so, they claim simply to NOT be one!

    Have they discovered a loophole for lying in the name of Jehovah and getting away with it?

    "Ever since The Watchtower began to be published in July 1879 it has looked ahead into the future... No, The Watchtower is no inspired prophet, but it follows and explains a Book of prophecy the predictions in which have proved to be unerring and unfailing till now. The Watchtower is therefore under safe guidance. It may be read with confidence, for its statements may be checked against that prophetic Book." (The Watchtower 1 January 1969)

    Indeed, 7 million members of this religion ALLOW THEM to escape condemnation for false prophecy and give them unwavering personal loyalty.

    Is there no modern day group of prophets who will STAND UP AND ACCUSE THIS RELIGION?

    The answer is: YES! Their exists a modern day prophet to point an accusing finger at this Governing Body in protest!

    Who is this PROPHET? WE ARE!

    The community of ex-JW members who publicly voice their accusations of lying, false prophesying, lethal blood policies and child molestation malfeasance!


    I remind you:

    List of Facts about Prophets

    1. Targets of persecution and opposition by authorities in power whom the prophets had criticised

    2. Gave specific warnings about corruption and malfeasance in order to correct wrongful practices

    Here is the twist ending.

    The GB can only toy with the word prophet by making sure they only print that word in regard to themselves with " " around it: "prophet".

    EX-JW critics at least speak the true truth about "the Truth" in the face of shunning and policies of ad hoc mind control


  • Kojack57

    Terry: Never thought of it in that way but, you do have a valid point. Watchtowers prophecies proving false and of course the G.B. blaming the wrong prophecies on the rank and file's wrong expectations. In essence the G.B. are saying that that Jehovah, Jesus, and the holy spirit are false prophets.

    This Cult has a lot of nerve with its flip flop writings like the one posted where Fred Franz says they are not united around a visible organization only Jehovah, and Jesus. They speak from both sides of their mouths.


  • DeWandelaar

    I finally know why everone conscidered me insane! I was acting like a prophet all my life!

    Hoooraaahhhhhh for Terry... I am finally conscidered a prophet :D !

  • Sayswho

    In 1972, the Watchtower described itself as "the modern-day "prophet

    "So, does Jehovah have a prophet to help them, to warn them of dangers and to declare things to come?
    These questions can be answered in the affirmative. Who is this prophet? ... This "prophet" was not one man, but was a body of men and women. It was the small group of footstep followers of Jesus Christ, known at that time as International Bible Students. Today they are known as Jehovah's Christian witnesses. ... Of course, it is easy to say that this group acts as a "prophet" of God. It is another thing to prove it. The only way that this can be done is to review the record. Thus this group of anointed followers of Jesus Christ, doing a work in Christendom paralleling Ezekiel's work among the Jews, were manifestly the modern-day Ezekiel, the "prophet" commissioned by Jehovah to declare the good news of God's Messianic kingdom and to give warning to Christendom." Watchtower 1972 Apr 1 pp.197-199 'They Shall Know that a Prophet Was Among Them'

    • Nice read Terry! I wish they would make up their minds...I am so confused.
    Good to know I'm also a prophet now. SW
  • Terry

    Sayswho, notice how and where and why the parenthesis pops up to hug the word prophet and turn it into "prophet".

    Very interesting because not one JW in a hundred knows why.

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