Back to Basics, Baloney, Eden Eve and Eventualities.

by prologos 5 Replies latest jw friends

  • prologos
    prologos

    Gen 1:31: "-- it was very good--"

    At this point man had perfection, so did the animals , it was all very good after all, but

    mankind did not have INHERENT never ending life, just like the perfect animals,-- because

    human's continuing, everlasting lfe depended on a balanced, steady DIET including the tree of LIFE.

    Remember what happened when that supply was interdicted.

    So what made us special was the DIET and some evolved limited smarts.

    How was this arrangement going to work with filling the earth? seeds to be carried abroad? prilgrimages back to headquarters?

    the comforting thought: Genesis had it right on I only count: we are bodily just animals.

    not endorsing the fable as a source or basis of TRUTH here.

  • Comatose
    Comatose

    I love talking about the first chapters of Genesis. One thing though, the bible doesn't say that they were eating from the tree of life. In fact, it makes a distinction. It says that they had to be put out of the garden and guards posted, lest they eat from it and certainly live forever. So, follow me here for a minute. Eating of the tree of knowledge of good and bad wasn't a continual thing. You didn't have to keep eating from it to be like god. It was a one time deal. Just like the tree of life. If they had been smart enough to eat from it then they would still be alive (and like god).

    Of course, that's all said as if its true. The really crazy thing is, why on earth would a loving god who was incapable of bad, and incapable of even knowing wrongdoing, make a temptation to test his children? Why also make a tree of life that granted immortality that they could have eaten. And, if he would have stopped them from eating of the tree of life, the why didn't he stop them from eating of the tree of good and bad? Completely impossible in every way.

  • prologos
    prologos

    In the story, the talking snake incident primes. that triggered the rotating blades. but

    original sin or not, A&E needed that tree, fruit, salad or tea*, to sustain by -- possiblyregular-- intake their perfect, mortal animal-like life.

    It is not a given that the eating of the tree of life was a one - time - only deal, even if the eating of the tree of knowledge was .

    One false step and you are out, versus a life long journey with good metabolism. . so:

    in the beginning bible story and in reality they were, in a physical sense just evolved/created MORTAL primates. but "very good"

    *reference to "leafs for the healing of the nations" inside the 12 gates. Rev.22:2

  • prologos
  • Comatose
    Comatose

    But, you are just giving an opinion. The bible states they were put out so as to avoid a situation where they ate and lived forever. It doesn't say they were eating it, or that they were put out out so they couldn't keep eating it.

    Of course we are arguing absurdities because it doesn't make sense either way.

  • scotoma
    scotoma

    All of my kids quit believing after reading Genesis.

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