Jehovah's Witnesses Foundational Claims...What Are the Selling Points?

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  • Cold Steel
    Cold Steel

    Well all of that is highly debatable, but the membership by and large have bought it lock, stock and barrel.

    Several doctrines are bizarre and some are just plain wrong. Consider:

    • Man doesn't have an immortal spirit, but at death ceases to exist. Granted, other Adventist movements buy into this doctrine, but it's highly controversial. When ancient Christian libraries were discovered circa 1947, this doctrine suffered some serious setbacks. Even though they're apocryphal, they indicate that the first century Christians believed that man has a spirit. In other words, this doctrine is by no means settled.
    • Genesis 6:1-2: "And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, that the sons of Elohim saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose." JWs believe that angels "materialized" and had sexual intercouse with mortal women. This ridiculous exegesis came from a silly fictional apocryphal source.
    • Armageddon: Previously mentioned. The JW exegesis interprets this as a worldwide conflagration where Satan stages his last great assault on Jehovah's people. Actually, it takes place in Jerusalem and is an assault against the sons of Judah. (Zechariah 12-14, Ezekiel 38-39)
    • Faithful and Discreet Slave. We all know about this one, and the presumptuous interpretation that's been made, specifically, that it refers to a group of people who have not been called or ordained.

    Well, the list could go on, but you get my drift. The question is how the Jehovah's Witnesses can possibly claim to be Jehovah's kingdom on Earth? We Latter-day Saints can point to angelic ministrations and the restoration of apostolic authority, all witnessed by at least one other person. LDS Apostle Orson Pratt wrote: "The Church has been organized, by divine revelation, angels have appeared, the apostolic authority has been restored by the ministration of angels, and the kingdom of God has been set up in fulfillment of the promise made to the ancient Prophet Daniel—a kingdom which shall never be destroyed, never again be rooted out of the earth and never be committed to another people, but it shall continue forever...."

    The Seventh Day Adventists claimed that Ellen G. White received revelation regarding seventh-day worship. She also claimed miraculous occurrences. Her visions and revelations were something she could point to and claim authority. Her website states that " From the time she was 17 years old until she died 70 years later, God gave her approximately 2,000 visions and dreams. The visions varied in length from less than a minute to nearly four hours."

    The Catholics and the Orthodox (Greek, Russian, etc.) claim apostolic authority in an unbroken chain going back to the apostles and Catholicism is now claiming many revelations from Fatima to others like Saint Malachy.

    All the above cite their reasons for believing that they represent God's kingdom on Earth. But the JWs insist that all manmade religions are in error. Yet they can't produce any claims to apostolic authority, to bind in Heaven and Earth. No revelations, no visions, no dreams, no theophanies. So how would they know they were chosen by Jehovah in 1919?

  • wasblind

    Jehovah's Witnesses are trained to sell shit on a silver platter

    Take 1914 for example:

    # 32 Express With Conviction

    What you need to do ? " Speak in a manner that shows that you are really convinced of the truthfulness and importance of what you are saying"_________Benefit from theocratic ministry school book page 194

    " Before the last members of the generation that was alive in 1914 will have passed off the scene, all things foretold will occur, including the great tribulation in which the present wicked world will end." __________Reasoning from the Scriptures book page 97


  • wasblind

    double post


  • WTWizard

    No wonder they want children to flunk science. All it takes is for one brilliant, honest scientist to emerge from the washtowel, shoot Einstein's theories full of holes, and get the truth about metaphysics. And that would make for something worse than the Internet. Imagine being able to offer scientific proof that Satan and His Demons are actually working for our freedom. Imagine being able to prove, scientifically, what goes on in Duat after death. Imagine being able to prove and demonstrate that joke-hova and its filthy angels are responsible for everything that is holding mankind back, and are working tirelessly to make sure we never advance. That would do more damage than Raymond Franz, the Internet, and this site put together.

    And it would be all of Christi-SCAM-ity, not just jokehovian witlesses, that would be affected. Prove that Original Sin is bogus, who is going to go to church or confess to "sins"? Prove that Jesus never existed or is totally dead and non-existent now, and that its "sacrifice(??)" did nothing, and who is going to emulate it? Yes, there will always be idiots that will continue in a dead belief system despite blatant proof that it is wrong. But, most people will not--and, if someone could prove that joke-hova is malicious and that Satan and His Demons are our Saviors, and demonstrate that proof throughout a congregation, and you will see half the congregation praying to Satan to extricate them from the filthy religion.

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