If Jesus is supposed to be Michael, would they not hold the same opinions about peace?

by I_love_Jeff 7 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • I_love_Jeff

    Why is Jesus seen as a man of peace and Michael as a Warrior? Are they both not the same and have the same opinions about non violence? Are the Jehovah's Witnesses a bit confused?

  • J. Hofer
    J. Hofer

    war is peace. didn't you know that?

  • designs

    Jesus is said in the NT to return and destroy the majority of humans so what is so 'peaceful' about Jesus.

  • sir82

    Yeah, exactly - Jesus doesn't seem very peaceful in Revelation 19.

  • Cold Steel
    Cold Steel

    Is not Jesus supposed to return to Jerusalem in judgment and in wrath? Read Zechariah 12-14.

    Something else, Jesus is not Michael but, rather, the premortal Jehovah. Read the first chapter of Genesis where we read of the gods all speaking to each other. The word for God is "Elohim," meaning (plural form), "gods."

    In the Garden, when Adam and Eve sinned, the Father could no longer communicate directly with man. He needed an Intercessor, and that Intercessor was Jehovah. Thus it was Jehovah who appeared to Enoch, Noah, the great high priest Shem, Abraham, Moses and others. It was Jehovah who showed Himself to Joshua and the seventy elders of Israel. Jehovah will come to judge the nations. And who is the judge of the nations? Jehovah in the Old Testament and Jesus in the New. Yet John wrote: "For the Father judges no man, but has committed all judgment to the Son." (John 5:22)

    After the judgment, when every knee shall bend and every tongue confess Christ, when death and hell has been destroyed and the Earth and its inhabitants glorified for the eternities, Jehovah will present it back to the Father having done all the work necessary to both judge and redeem the planet.

    Much has been written on this, but Michael? No, he's not Jesus, but he's subordinate to the Son even as the Son is to the Father.

  • Terry

    Jesus as Michael is an expired teaching.

  • Cold Steel
    Cold Steel

    Do you mean it's no longer taught by the WTBTS?

  • mP

    Why would Jesus need another name ? If the story was about Jesus why not simply say Jesus all the time instead of mixing Micahel, archagnle and other terms. Why the need for obsecurity and riddles.. Simple answer is of course xians are making it up when they try and make the two equivalent.

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