How did the jews know if a man was damaged ?

by mP 8 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • mP
    mP

    Deuteronomy 23:1
    He that is wounded in the stones, or hath his privy member cut off, shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD.
    How exactly did they know if one "stone" was damaged ?
  • Scully
    Scully

    Season 1 of The Borgias.

    Borgia is elected to the papacy (Pope Alexander). Part of the ceremony features the introduction of a commode-type seat, where the candidate sits his bare bottom and an official reaches underneath from behind to check the dangly bits. Upon confirmation that the dangly bits are present (not a woman pretending to be a dude) and that they are intact, the ceremony continues.

    Check it out on Showtime.

  • mP
    mP

    Scully:

    I too have heard that urban legend, which supposedly arrose because of Pope Joan somehow fooled everyone and got elected. Following on w/ your example, are we tobelieve that everybody entering the temple sat on a special chair like this ? Imagine this same custom was repeated at KH prior to each meeting, nobody would come after the second meeting!

  • PaintedToeNail
    PaintedToeNail

    I always wondered how they knew if someone was circumcised or not. Did they go in pairs or groups to urinate? Did the standard introduction of strangers require that they all lift up their skirts?

  • cobaltcupcake
    cobaltcupcake

    It's not like they had bathroom stalls back then.

  • ballistic
    ballistic

    How did the jews know if a man was damaged ?

    Because he has an extremely high voice? :)

  • Leolaia
    Leolaia
    It's not like they had bathroom stalls back then.

    Well there is the idiom in 1 Samuel 25:22, 34, 1 Kings 14:10, 16:11, 21:21, 2 Kings 9:8, males who "piss against the wall" (maštîn b e qîr). Since the idiom was used to refer to males who were subjected to death and mayhem (the expression is mainly used in curse formulas), Mark Twain responded with the witticism: "A person could piss against a tree, he could piss on his mother, he could piss on his own breeches and get off, but he must not piss against the wall — that would be going quite too far". The meaning of the expression is obscure. Does it refer to males in general, and allude to a general practice of men urinating against walls — and if so, privately or in public? Or is it just a derogatory metaphor comparing men who are destined to slaughter to dogs (who may or may not urinate against walls). Or does it refer to more specific class of men? It seems to only be applied to men from a royal house, or those well-to-do. One suggestion is that the idiom "pertains to a male of the royal house who is privileged to relieve himself in the privacy of an upper room set aside for the exclusive use of members of the ruling house" (Talmon and Fields in ZATW, 1989). This is because the word usually translated "wall" here may have the meaning of "room" (as in Joshua 2:15, which refers to an upper room) and upper rooms were noted for their privacy (it is where Rahab hid the spies and where David mourned Absalom), and it is where Eglon was relieving himself in the comical account in Judges 3:24.

    Anyway, thanks to the idiom, we are blessed to have sermons rants such as the following to enjoy:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qo3o4nfiG7A

  • mP
    mP

    Leo:

    While pissing on a wall may be useful to inspect if the main bit is missing it might by tricky to check for missing stones. What if you turned up tto temple and just couldnt go. Did they stamp or mark men who had been checked out ?

  • dog is god
    dog is god

    What about "the men who piss on the blackberries" on the golf course. I've been told never eat the blackberries on the course below 5 ft.

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