One scripture in 45 minutes

by WinstonSmith 8 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • WinstonSmith

    Hello everyone,

    Further evidence that the WTS values it's own publications above the bible. In the last 45 minutes of our meeting, there was only one scripture used. From the end of the number three talk through to the final song - one single solitary scripture.

    The number three talk finished. Talk counsel was given from the School book. Then there was the song. Then the announcements. In the announcements was a demonstration of how to offer the latest magazines. It was during this demo that the scripture was used. Then there was a 25 minute pat on the back session as JW 'history' was reviewed via questions and answers from a DVD. No scriptures used or even quoted, just the nauseous parroting of answers. Then the final song.

    Do JWs use the bible as their primary text? More and more, evidently not.


  • Phizzy

    They never did, Russell claimed primacy for his writings over scripture, and you can bet anything you like Rutherford thought his alcoholic ramblings were superior.

    Just as they have done away with Jesus, put him in a cupboard somewhere,so he realises he is subservient to the GB, just wheel him out a bit at memorial time,just the same they have done away with the Bible, it does not know what is written in itself unles the WT explains it.

    What the GB says is now Holy Writ.

  • Quendi

    This organization is light-years removed from its roots of the 1870s. Back then, there weren't even congregations but groups/cells were called classes and the emphasis was on reading the Bible and delving into its meaning. Yes, the "Bible Students" as they were eventually called, were concerned with the hoped-for end of the world in 1914, but they were also zealous about learning Bible doctrine.

    Now here we are in the first quarter of the twenty-first century and the Bible has lost its primary position. When I attended my first meetings at a Kingdom Hall in 1968, the Bible was referenced and read frequently--so frequently in fact that as a newbie I couldn't find the scriptures fast enough before the speaker had moved on to either reading or citing another one. Today, the emphasis has shifted to "the faithful and discreet slave" and what it wants to indoctrinate the rank-and-file with. Jehovah is infrequently mentioned or named. Jesus has been rendered practically invisible. And the Bible? It has been superceded by "the publications" as the essential and vital textual reference.

    The meetings have been shortened because the WTS knows that many attend only out of rote, not a sincere desire to please God or follow in his Son's footsteps. So it should come as no surprise that they are devoid of any real and substantial scriptural content. Lip service is given to reading and studying the Bible. Witnesses are not encouraged or taught how to have a meaningful personal relationship with their Creator. They are ignorant about the important role Jesus plays even now. All they know is to march in lock step with the thinking of the WTS. They've gone from being Bible students to being WTS stooges, more's the pity.


  • Fernando

    Their current opinion actually supersedes even their latest publications (which supersede the Bible, Jesus, Yahweh and the Holy Spirit).

    It is not an accident that the full "good news" can be found in their publications (albeit fragmented), but not in their hearts and not on their lips.

  • Disillusioned Lost-Lamb
    Disillusioned Lost-Lamb

    The WTBT$ likes to think that they've become so good at "explaining scripture" you don't even need to open the bible (just throw in a few token scriptures).

    What good would it do you anyway? You can't understand the bible without their litter-a-turd, right?

  • Momma-Tossed-Me

    The writers use it as their "primary text" but remember the Bible was not written for the R&F. So they can only read the Bible in their spare time and when they are told to use it during meetings. There should be no studying of the Bible alone, only with WTBTS publication in hand so that a reversion back to Christendom's way of thinking does not occur.

  • daringhart13

    ^^^ What Momma said is so true.

    The Bible is dangerous.

    2 Timothy 3:16, 17 is just a suggestion......its not absolute like the 144,000. God did a less than stellar job......which is why he created the GB to make books and explain it all better than he could.

  • WinstonSmith

    Hi guys,

    Great comments. So true that the WTS have become further and further removed from their origins of sitting around and discussing scriptures. Nowadays, rather than being 'Lets read this scripture and see what we can learn and conclude from it' it is 'Lets read this scripture to show how it aligns with our beliefs.' There is a huge difference in the methodologies.

    The more you look at the pictures in the publications and see the WTS books, mags and brochures being used in place of the bible, the more you listen closely at the meetings, you realise that rather than being taught from the scriptures, those at the meetings are being fed the teachings of men with a couple of cherrypicked scriptures that seem to add weight to what is being said. The illusion of learning from the scriptures at the meetings is a strong one. What one learns at the meetings is what the latest WTS agenda is.

  • life is to short
    life is to short

    marked for latter. Love your observations Winston Smith.


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