Yet Jesus read from those old scrolls as part of his ministry,
Yes, he did. That could mean different things. He could have been reasoning with them from what they understood at the time, so as to accomplish his ministry in the few years he understood that he had. He does not necessarily have to have taken all he read from literally. He might even simply have read from the things that he considered true or containing a true moral lesson... (literal or not)... without validating every single thing that makes up the OT as we have it today. So with these and other reasons in mind, it seems far easier to me to simply listen to the things that He taught... through His words and deeds. All he really needed to do was to convince people to look at Him for Truth.
and Paul had some hateful things to say about women
Yes, and some scholars have interesting things to say about some of those 'hateful things' attributed to Paul. How they seem out of place and were perhaps added later. I'm not a scholar, so I cannot state it so one way or the other. But there are also the purpose and situation surrounding what teachings he did give in regard to the status of women. (such as him not allowing a woman to speak in church or have authority over a man... note that he says in this case that it is he who does not allow it; not that God or Christ do not allow it. He is very specific, which is kind of odd for Paul... at least the older Paul. The younger Paul, still new to his knowledge of Christ, might have had some learning to do) Perhaps he was doing his best to address a specific problem or protect people from a specific problem, and we are only hearing one side of the telephone conversation in his letters, and don't know the whole story. So again, with all of these possibilities, it is still Christ to whom I should listen first and foremost.
And I never called you a liar, but I think you know that.
I wasn't referring specifically to you.
The mind games though---sometimes I get very lost talking to you. Perhaps it is not intentional, but I've said before, it is sometimes like trying to grasp water. Things get very fluid when we have a conversation, and I walk away having NO IDEA where you are coming from or how you got there.
Well, I am trying to make my understanding and view more clear. I am not playing mind games with anyone.
Peace,
tammy
