who are the REAL apostates again?

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  • mind blown
    mind blown

    2 Thess 2:1-17

    1 Now we request you, a brethren, with regard to the 1 b coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our c gathering together to Him,

    2 that you not be quickly shaken from your 1 composure or be disturbed either by a a spirit or a 2 b message or a c letter as if from us, to the effect that d the day of the Lord e has come.

    3 a Let no one in any way deceive you, for it will not come unless the 1 b apostasy comes first, and the c man of lawlessness is revealed, the d son of destruction,

    4 who opposes and exalts himself above 1 a every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, b displaying himself as being God.

    5 Do you not remember that a while I was still with you, I was telling you these things?

    6 And you know a what restrains him now, so that in his time he will be revealed.

    7 For a the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only b he who now restrains will do sountil he is taken out of the way.

    8 Then that lawless one a will be revealed whom the Lord will slay b with the breath of His mouth and bring to an end by the c appearance of His 1 coming;

    9 that is, the one whose 1 coming is in accord with the activity of a Satan, with all power and 2 b signs and false wonders,

    10 and with 1 all the deception of wickedness for a those who perish, because they did not receive the love of b the truth so as to be saved.

    11 For this reason a God 1 will send upon them 2 a b deluding influence so that they will believe 3 what is false,

    12 in order that they all may be 1 judged who a did not believe the truth, but 2 b took pleasure in wickedness.

    13 a But we should always give thanks to God for you, b brethren beloved by the Lord, because c God has chosen you 1 from the beginning d for salvation 2 e through sanctification 3 by the Spirit and faith in the truth.

    14 It was for this He a called you through b our gospel, 1 that you may gain the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.

    15 So then, brethren, a stand firm and b hold to the traditions which you were taught, whether c by word of mouth or c by letter 1 from us.

    16 a Now may our Lord Jesus Christ a Himself and God our Father, who has b loved us and given us eternal comfort and c good hope by grace,

    17 a comfort and b strengthen your hearts in every good work and word.

    ************************************************************************* 1 Timothy 1:1-20

    1 Paul, a an apostle of b Christ Jesus c according to the commandment of c God our Savior, and of b Christ Jesus, who is our d hope,

    2 To a Timothy, a my true child in the faith: b Grace, mercy and peace from God the Father and c Christ Jesus our Lord.

    3 As I urged you 1 upon my departure for a Macedonia, 2 remain on at b Ephesus so that you may instruct certain men not to c teach strange doctrines,

    4 nor to 1 pay attention to a myths and endless b genealogies, which give rise to mere c speculation rather than d furthering 2 the administration of God which is by faith.

    5 But the goal of our 1 a instruction is love b from a pure heart and a c good conscience and a sincere d faith.

    6 For some men, straying from these things, have turned aside to a fruitless discussion,

    7 a wanting to be b teachers of the Law, even though they do not understand either what they are saying or the matters about which they make confident assertions.

    8 But we know that a the Law is good, if one uses it lawfully,

    9 realizing the fact that a law is not made for a righteous person, but for those who are lawless and b rebellious, for the c ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and d profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers

    10 1 and 2 a immoral men 1 and b homosexuals 1 and c kidnappers 1 and d liars 1 and e perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to f sound teaching,

    11 according to a the glorious gospel of b the blessed God, with which I have been c entrusted.

    12 I thank a Christ Jesus our Lord, who has b strengthened me, because He considered me faithful, c putting me into service,

    13 even though I was formerly a blasphemer and a a persecutor and a violent aggressor. Yet I was b shown mercy because c I acted ignorantly in unbelief;

    14 and the a grace of our Lord was more than abundant, with the b faith and love which arefound in Christ Jesus.

    15 a It is a trustworthy statement, deserving full acceptance, that b Christ Jesus came into the world to c save sinners, among whom d I am foremost of all.

    16 Yet for this reason I a found mercy, so that in me as the foremost, Jesus Christ might b demonstrate His perfect patience as an example for those 1 who would believe in Him for eternal life.

    17 Now to the a King 1 eternal, b immortal, c invisible, the d only God, e be honor and glory 2 forever and ever. Amen.

    18 This a command I entrust to you, Timothy, b my 1 son, in accordance with the c prophecies previously made concerning you, that by them you d fight the good fight,

    19 keeping a faith and a good conscience, which some have rejected and suffered shipwreck in regard to 1 b their faith.

    20 1 Among these are a Hymenaeus and b Alexander, whom I have c handed over to Satan, so that they will be d taught not to blaspheme.

  • ziddina
    ziddina

    Hee hee hee hee!!!

    Well, we ALL know who "exalts [them]selves above every god or object of worship, taking [their] seat in the temple of god, and displays themselves as "god"...

    [looks around....]

    Dunno why there isn't more action on this thread???

    Dagnabbit, guys, POST!!!

  • mind blown
    mind blown

    If I seem aggressive in most of my posts......that's because I am

    You see GB, DF'ing doesn't make one come around as you state, especially when it's an unscriptual command and you take one's only begotten away. I will do all I can do to expose you for the APOSTATES YOU REALLY ARE!

    Ephesians 5:9-12

    9 (for a the fruit of the Light consists in all b goodness and righteousness and truth),

    10 1 a trying to learn what is pleasing to the Lord.

    11 a Do not participate in the unfruitful b deeds of c darkness, but instead even 1 d expose them;

    12 for it is disgraceful even to speak of the things which are done by them in secret.

    One pissed off parent

  • N.drew
    N.drew

    What do the as bs ds cs es 1s and 2s mean?

  • mind blown
    mind blown

    References from this online bible:

    http://biblia.com/books/esv

  • thetrueone
    thetrueone

    who are the REAL apostates again?

    The Watchtower Corporation of course, an obvious deceiving commercialized false prophet

  • N.drew
    N.drew

    1 Then Jesus spoke to the crowds and to His disciples, 2 saying: “The scribes and the Pharisees have seated themselves in the chair of Moses; 3 therefore all that they tell you, do and observe, but do not do according to their deeds; for they say things and do not do them.

    They say we should love one another but they don't love us. They say we should put Jah first but they put themselves before Jah.

    I never understood what this translation meant - therefore all that they tell you, do and observe, but do not do according to their deeds.

    The reason why I did not understand it is I don't know what their "deeds" are to not do them.

    I have been looking hard at the scripture and I wonder what it means

    Therefore (because they have taken the seat of Moses) all of how many IF they say to you for you to keep ALSO do keep them (as watchover, guard) AGAINST but the works of them do not do, they speak indeed to not do.

    In other words if you listen to them to obey them your works will be against accomplishment. But to know what they say is good because how else will you guard yourself against it? It's good to know how the enemy thinks.

  • Phizzy
    Phizzy

    The WT becomes an apostate to the "truth" it taught every time it changes its teachings, and the new teaching becomes "truth" for ashort time.

    They are the best example of Apotasy in that the have "stood apart" from the truth of the Bible from their very beginning, as they themselves admit by changing their teachings.

    The sad thing is that no matter what "Noo Lite" they upchuck they get no closer to what the Bible really teaches.

  • mind blown
    mind blown

    2 Corinth 11: 12-15

    And what I do I will continue to do, in order to undermine the claim of those who would like to claim that in their boasted mission they work on the same terms as we do. 13 For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. 14 And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. 15 So it is not strange if his servants also disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their deeds.

  • mind blown
    mind blown

    LUKE 11:46

    Yes," said Jesus, "what sorrow also awaits you experts in religious law! For you crush people with unbearable religious demands, and you never lift a finger to ease the burden.

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