Taleban Vs Watchtower: Religions That Progress Or Don't

by metatron 7 Replies latest jw friends

  • metatron
    metatron

    The Wall Street Journal (thank heavens the library pays for the subscription) of this weekend has a lengthy article about the Taleban.

    Apparently, they have discovered education.

    Now, it's not like they're building a Harvard School of Murderous Fanaticism - but they are responding to complaints that they want to take over a nation with nobody educated to get anything done, that Afghans can't even read and can't get jobs - and that half the nation (being female) is of little use to the economy, as they are even more ignorant than males.

    The US Army is skeptical about the reality of this - given that these guys are the same idiots who murder shopkeepers for the "crime" of mixing fruits and vegetables of different "genders" (Ok, I get the banana thing but a tomato is female?).

    So, the Most Awful People on Earth now realize that education is important - while the Watchtower goes backwards into condemning college, while they "eat the fruits" of Higher Education by using Witness Doctors, Lawyers, and Engineers.

    You gotta wonder if the real motive behind their distaste for higher education has more to do with maintaining their sense of unmerited superiority and defending their pathetically disadvantaged state in facing retirement. "Don't worry, Armageddon Is Soon!".

    metatron

  • ziddina
    ziddina

    F*ck, and here I felt that the dimwitted Middle-Eastern fundamentalist extremists would die out rather quickly because of their attitude towards education...

    They may change their tune - again - after their people obtain educations and realize just how blind, backwards, primitive, ignorant, and oppressive the Taliban actually is...

    Which is ANOTHER example of why the Watchtower Corporation doesn't want ITS people obtaining an education - because if THEY obtained more information - and as has been pointed out many times, the ability to think clearly - then many more Jehovah's Witnesses would realize just how blind, backwards, primitive, ignorant, and oppressive the Taliban- er, the Watchtower Corporation - actually is...

    Zid

  • Band on the Run
    Band on the Run

    The Wall Street Journal has excellent in-depth articles on general news. If anyone is interested, The Economist (around $70. or more per year) is offering subscriptions for $12. I suppose they want to get you addicted so you will pay the high fee.

    The Economist is popular. B/c it is British, it offers a unique perspective for Americans. I loved it when I could afford it.

    Are they talking about the US govt imposed Afghan leadership or the remnants of the Taliban. My internist teaches and practices at Bellevue. He was present when Bellevue sounded the city wide mass catstrophe alarm. He saw what they would not show on TV. He is Jewish. Medicine is everything to him. When I showed up for my first visit at 9/11, we briefly discussed it. He said he was swamped for a few days and then there nothing to do. He quipped that the US plan to avoid repeat offenses was to send women to college. When their women get a college education, we will have our revenge. No need for an extended military presence.

    I always wanted to go to college once my teachers told me I was going. My mom was born-in. She would drive me around Montclair NJ, past the mansions of NY based CEOS and explain what a great job being a maid would be. I kept asking why I could not own one of those homes rather than being a maid. I had to fight to be allowed to be a practical nurse. If it were not for my teachers and Seventeen magazine, I'd be wearing a maid's uniform. It was not just a Witness view. The class we were believed in deference. I thought my family was mojo depleted.

  • WTWizard
    WTWizard

    This is what happens when tyrants seize control of a religion. As with Christianity, Islam has been corrupted. Mainstream Islam is not as violent and oppressive as these regimes make it out to be. For instance, fasting during Ramadan is not supposed to create a hardship, and the face veils are not supposed to impede safety. What happens is tyrants add these things, make things more rigid, and enforce them with death and by blowing things up. The Taliban and Sharia Law are actually perversions of the Islam that was supposed to be peaceful. Even the parts of the Quran that contradict other parts of the Quran may well have been written or influenced by tyrants that were trying to seize control of the world. This is what ruins education.

    And Christianity is at least as bad. When Jesus first created his original message, it was far from the oppressive form of Christianity we all know today. As with Islam, people twisted the meaning of the message right at the source, creating a system of laws that Jesus never approved of. It was pushed deep into the Middle East and parts of Africa--Paul had the share in doing this. Then tyrants seized Christianity to impose their own agendas, and we all know the devastation that resulted. Bad education (worse than today--even worse than Islam) resulted, and the world was plunged into the First Dark Ages. Science was stifled under threat of burning at the stake. Crusades pushed into the Far East, forcing people to abandon native religions in favor of an oppressive version of Christianity. I believe those Christian crusades did Islam more good than Islam itself because of the oppressiveness of Christianity.

    The Washtowel is a prime example of how oppressive Christianity can be in the wrong hands. Seize control and threaten people if they look elsewhere. While the witlesses don't blow things up to spread the message, they do threaten with everlasting destruction and use promises of seeing dead relatives to recruit. And occasionally, you do find a witless doing something extreme--kidnapping and murdering, molesting children to ruin their lives, and doing other rubbish you might expect from Muslims.

    Yes, the Taliban and Sharia Law are oppressive. But so was the first Catholic regime (that seized Christianity and created a Dark Ages with it). And so are the cults and scams, washtowel included, that use Christianity as a platform to ruin lives and keep people in spiritual darkness. Better to simply cut as many ties as possible: Go by mainstream Christian or Islam groups instead of high-control groups, by the Bible or Quran instead of mainstream Muslim or Christian groups, by what Mohammed or Jesus said instead of the Bible or Quran, or what would Mohammed or Jesus would have wanted you to do instead of what they themselves did. By trying to do it yourself and getting the actual message, you bypass the groups that will tyrannize whole regions.

    As for missionary or evangelist works, they only spread mistakes and bad doctrines. By holding individuals responsible for their own spiritual direction, you prevent them from copying your errors. Sure, they might make even worse ones. But in the end, those errors cancel each other out and tend to correct themselves. And the bad ones do limited damage. By spreading your religion region-wide, you spread whatever errors you yourself have, allowing whole regions to suffer and a tyrant to use them to hijack the whole thing. Besides, damning a whole group to whatever spiritual damnation might be out there (in this life or not).

  • BluesBrother
    BluesBrother

    Nice comment WTWizard, mainstream Islam is about as far away from Taliban extremes as it could possibly be. I worked in a close team with muslims and they were decent reasonable people who practiced their faith with reasonableness.

    NB. Sometimes I can see parallels between Taliban extremism and the WTS. They both say that if one has a different viewpoint or practice the same generic religion but in a different way - you deserve to die. Bombers plan the death, the WTS wait on Jehovah to bring it on....but as they like to quote "Let your eye not feel sorry & do not feel any compassion" Ez. 9 5

  • Terry
    Terry

    Parasitism is what it is called.

    Here is something ironic, the societies which produce (invent) the religions are just like the Taliban in widespread superstition, ignorance, mistreatment of women as inferior, anti-progress, illiteracy and mistrust of technology.

    Starting at about 300 c.e. and lasting until the Renaissance the rise of Christianity paralleled the so-called DARK AGES.

    Co-incidence?

  • Phizzy
    Phizzy

    Taliban= JW/WT religion , right ? too many parallels to list, so how do we get the message out to the public ?

  • Band on the Run
    Band on the Run

    My bro-in-law is an Arabic Christian. I believe Chaldean originally. Perhaps b/c his culture is not mainstream American, he is rah rah the Roman Catholic Church and the United States. Both are perfect. The Crusades are models of Christian behavior. I don't know anything besides the Holocaust that negates Jesus more. Wikipedia articles note that often the Muslims upheld "Christian" principles more than the Crusaders did. It is funny b/c Crusaders were holy when I was in elementary school. Just as Columbus is now a villain, the Crusaders are seen for what they were. It was very holy how they sacked Constantinaple. They plundered and raped Christian lands long before they reached the Middle East.

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