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badboy

Alan F,
It is interesting what you said on my previous post about Neanderthal Man, because the Creationists don't seem to agree on a lot of things.
e.g Some say Neanderthals were pre-flood human,other say they suffered from Ricketts/syphilis, others that they were apes!

The Creationists Website say all kind of strange things such as the
Neanderthal MTDNA is different because as you age('U' and ME)our MTDNA would change. WHAT BULLSHIT!

Another said That AIDS/HIV weren't connected!

The Watchtower says that Evolutionists cannot agree among themselves so that makes Evolution untrue.
By same criteria, Creationism must also be untrue!

What is the alternative theory?

Does WT know what BULLSHIT some of its sources is coming with.

Does the WT dissassoite(sic)from this twaddle about AIDS/HIV etc etc?

Fredhall

Badboy,

Do you know what AlanF says is BULLSHIT too?

seven006

Fred,

Your sophisticated and meticulously researched comments always amaze me. The depth of your posts certainly reflect the volume of knowledge you have on any subject matter you comment on.

Your posting style has always reminded me of a drive by shooting with a squirt gun.

Don't ever change.

Dave

Fredhall

Seven006,

You are being a sorry ass if you sticking up for AlanF.

OUTLAW

Hey Fred ,AllanF and seven006 are both good guys.I know you don`t get along with AlanF,you can`t expect to get along with everyone.Most people like you,you`ll have to live with that..LOL...OUTLAW

Moxy

before WOL closed down, there was a guy in the science forum that had this brand-new theory that he was really proud of. he had to check with the elders before he could reveal the details tho to make sure it wasnt contrary to anything the society taught. so he finally lays out his theory: neanderthal=nephilim. he had it all figured out. pre-flood, larger and stronger than humans, died out. (he appeared to have confused 'robust' with 'large and strong'.) to their credit, a lot of the regular posters told him this was pretty unlikely, but i dont really see any intelligent interpretation put forward by JWs as to *what* neanderthal was. has anyone seen anything more than the WTs statement, that they were a 'race of humans that died out,' whatever that means.

mox

ThiChi

Here is the view of In the Beginning: Compelling Evidence for Creation and the Flood by Dr. Walt Brown a noted Creationist:

For about 100 years the world was led to believe Neanderthal man was stooped and apelike. This erroneous belief was based upon some Neanderthals with bone diseases such as arthritis and rickets.r Recent dental and x-ray studies of Neanderthals suggest they were humans who matured at a slower rate and lived to be much older than people today.s

“”Recent dental and x-ray studies of Neanderthals suggest they were humans who matured at a slower rate and lived to be much older than people today.s Neanderthal man, Heidelberg man, and Cro-Magnon man are now considered completely human. Artists’’ depictions of them, especially of their fleshy portions, are often quite imaginative and are not supported by the evidence.t

r . Francis Ivanhoe, ““Was Virchow Right About Neanderthal?”” Nature, Vol. 227, 8 August 1970, pp. 577––578.
William L. Straus, Jr. and A. J. E. Cave, ““Pathology and the Posture of Neanderthal Man,”” The Quarterly Review of Biology, Vol. 32, December, 1957, pp. 348––363.
Bruce M. Rothschild and Pierre L. Thillaud, ““Oldest Bone Disease,”” Nature, Vol. 349, 24 January 1991, p. 288.

s . Jack Cuozzo, Buried Alive: The Startling Truth about Neanderthal Man (Green Forest, Arkansas: Master Books, 1998).
t . Boyce Rensberger, ““Facing the Past,”” Science 81, October 1981, p. 49. “”

AlanF

I think that in recent years the Society's writers have become much more aware of the stupidities in so-called creation science. That's why they've published so little about this subject, except in very general terms like "evolution cannot be true". My suspicion is that they received so many negative letters about the 1985 Creation book pointing out major flaws in arguments that they had to back off.

One problem for the Society is that hardly anyone in a position of responsibility in Bethel even barely understands anything about science, and about evolution in particular. They simply don't have the intellectual wherewithal to understand which arguments of the Young-Earth Creationists are flat-out nonsense and which are not.

AlanF

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