Researchers -- I Need Zion Watch Tower verification

by FatFreek 2005 7 Replies latest forum tech-support

  • FatFreek 2005
    FatFreek 2005

    Here's an older Zion's Watch Tower quotation that I'm trying to verify. “Take another line of prophecy: we find that the 1260 days, and the 1290 days, and the 1335 days, so particularly set forth in Daniel's prophecy, and corroborated in Revelation, have had fulfilments, – the 1260 days ending in 1799." ZWT, September, 1898.

    That quote is found at http://www.watchtowerdocuments.com/documents. Note that is a sizeable download of some 74 Mbytes since that single file contains all ZWT issues from 1879 through 1916. To obtain it, look on that page and click on the link 1879-1916_Watch_Tower_Journals.pdf.

    I decided to verify that quotation by looking for another source. I found one (thanks to a post by our friend Atlantis) that had that specific Watch Tower series of 1898. The one that I found is here: http://ia700304.us.archive.org/27/items/WatchtowerLibrary/magazines/w/

    Once that view of folders displays, you may then look for any specific year from 1879 through 1949 – in my case, 1898, and click the link. The sizes that I downloaded range from 15 to 25 Mbytes in size.

    The problem? This file, like most PDFs, allow you to string search. However, when you search for any of the text (say 1260 days) from that quotation above, you won't find that quotation.

    Any suggestions?

    Len

  • blondie
  • FatFreek 2005
    FatFreek 2005

    Hi Blondie,

    That's all I needed. No, they aren't the page scans that I wanted (where you can see the page as it originally appeared), but it gave me the verification I needed. It confirmed what I had found in that huge one-piece file.

    That link from above (http://ia700304.us.archive.org/27/items/WatchtowerLibrary/magazines/w/) must have a glitch. When you get to the September issue there seems to be a big chunk of pages missing. Apparently why I couldn't find my search term.

    Thanks my dear friend.

    Len

  • ScenicViewer
    ScenicViewer

    Try spelling out the numbers to search for them.

    This quote relates to 1799, the 1260 days (or years), and the "last days." Some of the numbers are spelled out,

    (Creation, 1927, pages 293, 294, 295, 298)
    “Napoleon began this Egyptian campaign in 1798, finished it, and then returned to France on October 1, 1799. The campaign is briefly, yet graphically described in the prophecy, verses 40-44; and its being completed in 1799 marks, according to the prophet's own words, the beginning of “the time of the end…” Twelve hundred and sixty years from 539 A.D. brings us to 1799, which is another proof that 1799 definitely marks the beginning of “the time of the end”.

    "There are two important dates here that we must not confuse, but clearly differentiate; namely, the beginning of "the time of the end" and the beginning of the presence of the Lord. "The time of the end" embraces a period from 1799 A.D. to the time of the complete overthrow of Satan's empire and the establishment of the kingdom of the Messiah. The time of the Lord's second presence dates from 1874 and is during the latter part of the period known as "the time of the end."

    “Twelve hundred and sixty years from 539 A.D. brings us to 1799, which is another proof that 1799 definitely marks the beginning of "the time of the end." From shortly after 1799, the date of the beginning of "the time of the end," we should expect to find an increase of knowledge, particularly with reference to the Bible.”

  • FatFreek 2005
    FatFreek 2005

    Just in case other researchers are interested, the above site that Blondie pointed me to is searchable via Google site search ability. For example, 1260 site:http://www.ctrussell.us/ placed in the search field gave me the relevant article I was looking for.

    Even more exciting, since you're using Google, you may search for multiple terms that may be in the same proximity. For example, if you're searching for articles that may show the early Watch Tower position on resurrection of the ancient Sodomites, enter the following with the search field -- sodom* resurrect* site:http://www.ctrussell.us/

    Note the use of the wild card *. Resurrect, resurrects, resurrected, resurrection, etc., will be found by using it. By using Google in this way I found some 54 instances of articles to explore.

    Len

  • FatFreek 2005
    FatFreek 2005

    Yes, ScenicViewer, you are so right.

    By using the string " Twelve hundred and sixty", I was able to mine an additional 8 hits.

    Thanks for that tip.

    Len

    PS: I note that you quoted a 1927 publication that taught something that current JWs would never believe was printed, " which is another proof that 1799 definitely marks the beginning of “the time of the end”. "

    Good find.

  • TD
    TD

    The Watchtower, May 15, 1902 p. 91 (2978)

  • Black Sheep
    Black Sheep
    However, when you search for any of the text (say 1260 days) from that quotation above, you won't find that quotation.

    The OCR in some of the available PDFs isn't that great.

    If I can't find what I want on the first try, I search other blocks of text from the same paragraph.

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