How did it feel to be loved by True Christians at the Kingdom Hall?

by AvocadoJake 8 Replies latest jw friends

  • AvocadoJake
    AvocadoJake

    The love practiced by those in the Kingdom Hall, how can we describe it? There are so many (yeah, there are quite a few who have intense hatred and not love.) witnesses who hate each other, families who call down evil on each other, they wish their mother, father, brothers and sisters, Aunts, Uncles, grandkids, nephews, nieces were dead. When those speaking on behalf of the WTS would bring out how "Have you ever felt so much love, look around you! See how your brothers and sisters love you so much, they would die for you in a heart beat." I just shook my head, and would think "Is there something wrong with me, I don't feel this intense, transcendental love from the brotherhood. Hey, most don't even greet new ones, they stand in place or anchor themselves to the wall. There are brothers and sisters in the Hall, I might have said ten words to, in twenty years. How can this be love, when we don't even know anything about each other?" What kind of love were they talking about, and what was I suppose to feel? John 13:34

    34 So now I am giving you a new commandment: Love each other. Just as I have loved you, you should love each other. 35 Your love for one another will prove to the world that you are my disciples.” Next Scripture 1 John 2:7- 11

    A New Commandment
    7 Dear friends, I am not writing a new commandment for you; rather it is an old one you have had from the very beginning. This old commandment—to love one another—is the same message you heard before. 8 Yet it is also new. Jesus lived the truth of this commandment, and you also are living it. For the darkness is disappearing, and the true light is already shining.

    9 If anyone claims, “I am living in the light,” but hates a Christian brother or sister, [a] that person is still living in darkness. 10 Anyone who loves another brother or sister [b] is living in the light and does not cause others to stumble. 11 But anyone who hates another brother or sister is still living and walking in darkness. Such a person does not know the way to go, having been blinded by the darkness.

    2 John : " 4 How happy I was to meet some of your children and find them living according to the truth, just as the Father commanded.

    5 I am writing to remind you, dear friends, [c] that we should love one another. This is not a new commandment, but one we have had from the beginning. 6 Love means doing what God has commanded us, and he has commanded us to love one another, just as you heard from the beginning.

    If we don't obey the commandment to love one another, we turn back to 1 John 2:

    3 And we can be sure that we know him if we obey his commandments. 4 If someone claims, “I know God,” but doesn’t obey God’s commandments, that person is a liar and is not living in the truth. 5 But those who obey God’s word truly show how completely they love him. That is how we know we are living in him. 6 Those who say they live in God should live their lives as Jesus did.

  • Iamallcool
    Iamallcool

    (bookmarked)

  • Wasanelder Once
    Wasanelder Once

    That's the only place they loved you and that was a joke.

  • White Dove
    White Dove

    People forced to be together can't be very happy.

  • AvocadoJake
    AvocadoJake

    What kind of love is the Watchtower Society talking about? There is a book, just finished reading about the first five hundred years of the Christian Church and why it survived, while the Roman religion failed. Why was this? Love, kindess, compassion, mercy, self-sacrifice.

    My dates will be off, not by much, if you won't exact dates, wiki them.

    275 AD The great plague rips through Alexandria and other providences which bring death and destroys a huge number of the population. Christians don't flee the way the pagans have, the Christians stay (Not afraid of death, feeling they must help, show unconditional love.) and nurse their own back to health (When the plague does not kill them.) as well as the non-christians whose family ran off at first sign of illness. Some being thrown into the streets! The christians find these and bring them to their make shift, nursing home. This puts the Roman priest and family members (Those who abandoned them, when they were sick.) in a very bad position(Just think how they felt, when they came back to the city to find their Father, Sister or children alive, angry and a feeling of betrayal.) and causes many sick ones to adopt the Christian worldview, and adopt love and charity and kindness.

    350 AD More plagues rip across the Roman empire and Christians are there to nurse the poor, elderly and those who don't belong to the Church. This continues to push the Church way beyond the Roman religion's numbers. Where were the roman priest, when their followers were sick and dying? The christians were there, practicing charity and love.

    400+AD Emperor Julian forces the pagan priest to donate money to the poor, "they need to try to display mercy, generosity and community devotion, the way the "cult of Christ." is winning the masses over. To the Romans, this is a odd concept, what will they gain by giving their money away, their view is this "the gods help those who help themself, the gods are punishing the poor, and altruism is insane! Why should we give? Charity and compassion are considered a weakness in this society and Christians are the whackos who are doing good works and feeding the poor, widows, orphans, ect. We all know the rest of the story, those who showed love and kindess, conquered the World!

  • Wasanelder Once
    Wasanelder Once

    and then they worked hard on blowing it up.

  • keyser soze
    keyser soze

    I'll let you know when it happens.

  • hamsterbait
    hamsterbait

    Does anybody think its just a matter of luck whether the group you worship with are loving?

    Do you agree that most people at the kingdumb hell dont care whether you live or die? Sometimes you find one or maybe two kindred spirits in a congo, but for the most part you are on your own, except for trivial superficial social friendships.

    My mother is in a congo where they really do look out for each other. But then you can see Church groups where this is the case, just as you hear of people complaining that their church is cold and unloving.

    isnt it almost impossible to feel affection for people you hardly know but are forced to be with? Sadly this is an worsening trend among the dubs, especially since they dumped the bookstudy in homes, and started to discourage socialising.

    Now most of the time you only speak to another witless in the highly prescriptive terms dictated by the witchtower for meetings, or on door to bore misery where they tell you what to talk about.

    When you are deluded and/desperate, even the fake lovebombing of newbies can seem real.

    Try living on this psychological equivalent of chicken nuggets and popcorn for long enough and see how you feel.

    HB

  • Roberta804
    Roberta804

    Hamsterbait....love the name btw,

    I've been out 20 plus years, never regreted leaving. So they are putting restrictions on socializing? Can you explain more of what you mean?

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