Y'All Don't Believe in God--PART 2

by teenyuck 7 Replies latest jw friends

  • teenyuck
    teenyuck

    flower, you need to wake up and realize christians are not the only religion.

    i guess one thing i dont understand is where an athiest or agnostic sets their limits. i feel like if i didnt have a christian conscience that i may not be able to differentiate between what is right and wrong
    HELLO!!!!!

    Why would I need a christian conscience to tell me right from wrong?! What if I were raised Hindu? Would I not have a "conscience?"

    I, honestly, am shocked that you would write something like this, after being on this board for so long.

    but is stealing just as blatanly wrong to everyone...even athiests? is lying wrong to someone who doesnt believe in God? what about things like beastiality? i mean what is the rule of thumb..as long as no one gets hurt then anything and everything goes in life? i think if i was an athiest i might think that if i can steal from some billion dollar company or rich person who doesnt need it and get away with it scott free i would do it because no one is getting hurt. but as a christian my conscience tells me that its wrong and that God would not approve.
    Lying-depends....would you tell your best friend she looks like shit on her wedding day? Or would you "bend the truth" and tell her she is lovely? This is one of those trick questions. As a good JW, you should tell her she looks like shit.

    Beastiality?! Where in the world did you get that...oh, yeah, the bible. Get real. People of any religion can be into this type of psycho behavior. It does not require a belief in God or the bible to know that this type of behavior is just not right. The person into this needs therapy...

    Stealing-Yeah, I am going to steal something because God won't punish me.....AGAIN...wake up! I am not going to steal because I know it is unethical and I could go to jail....any christian will tell you this...go to a prison and see how many prisoners will qualify themselves as christian. People of other non-christian religions will also agree it is wrong.

    You need to take a deep breath and realize we are not demonized...nor are we evil....

    I dare you to compare your life to mine.

    I give 5% of my income to charity---do you? As a JW, how many witnesses give to charity or help in a homeless shelter?

    I volunteer at an agency that has helped me. They are a non-profit group helping people with the medical condition I have. How many christians volunteer at things like this? Do you?

    I pay my taxes. All of them. It is not worth trying to cheat the government. Gee, Jimmy (I am a crook) Swaggert was a christian too.

    I have not lied on my resume, cheated on my husband or gone out of my way to hurt people. I try to help. Was this a product of my JW upbringing? NO!!!! I learned it after I was out in the world. As a JW, I could care less if the homeless needed help...they needed to be saved by Jesus!

    I even purchased a second copy of Microsoft Office because I had a second computer...you are allowed to put it on one computer when you purchase...did you know that? How many christians will open their wallets and buy two of the same software? Not too many.

    Really, you need to climb down from your "I am christian, I am better" perch. When you fall, it is really going to hurt.

  • larc
    larc

    puffsrule,

    Why did you post this twice? I gave my thoughts on your post on the other thread.

  • teenyuck
    teenyuck

    I posted this as a separate thread because it is hurtful...

    flower's type of attitude does nothing but convince me I was right to leave a belief in God behind.

    Why should my conscience be led by an invisible being? I am an adult. I am responsible for my actions. I can read the newspaper to figure out that lying, cheating, stealing and beastiality are wrong. I do not need to believe in God, Allah, Budda or any other faith based higher being to know that breaking the law, whether it be the ten commandments or the local criminal code is wrong.

    flower insults everyone on this board who has identified themselves as agnostic or atheist. It is closed minded and prejudical.

  • larc
    larc

    pufsrule,

    As I said on the other thread, I did not have the same take as you on her comments. I think she is grappling with issues and perhaps some stereotypes, but I don't see her enquiry as an attempt to flame us.

  • Sunchild
    Sunchild
    flower, you need to wake up and realize christians are not the only religion.

    I think that's what she's trying to learn.

    I've dealt with fundamantalism on *both* sides of the fence, both Xian fundies who want to keep me from going to Hell and somewhat overzealous Atheists who just can't undestand why a smart girl like me isn't one of *them*. So, I know what closed-mindedness looks like, and Flower isn't showing it. I could see that in the way she responded to me: "I don't agree with all you say, but I do respect you." No attempts to convert or persuade me. All she did was listen. An Xian fundy would NEVER grant that to a Wiccan.

    It's typically a good idea to pick your battles carefully. Not all of them are really worth fighting, and sometimes, you'll end up starting something where no battle was declared.

    *Rochelle.

    ---------
    "I can teach you how to bottle fame, brew glory, even stopper death -- if you aren't as big a bunch of dunderheads as I usually have to teach."
    -- Professor Severus Snape, Harry Potter and the Sorceror's Stone.

  • flower
    flower

    i apologized on the other thread. i didnt mean to be hurtful or judgemental or rude or anything like that. i just wasnt thinking and i'm sorry. i only was trying to figure things out. i didnt mean to insult you but i did and i'm sorry again..to all the people who found what i said hurtful.

    i dont think i am better than anyone else..christian or otherwise.

    this thread hurts cause i didnt mean to do it.

    flower

  • teenyuck
    teenyuck

    Thank you flower. I apologize for losing my temper; I am sorry for misinterpreting your words.

    Tina

  • ianao
    ianao

    Hmmm... Maybe some adults do exist on this DB.

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