1 Tim 6:3, 4 and the WT's obsession with dissent

by Pistoff 2 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Pistoff

    The WT continues it's obsessive paranoia with anyone who disagrees with them, going to the extreme of applying 1 Tim 6:3, 4 to them.

    They do not quote the whole scripture of course (let alone the entire chapter), and in context the writer is saying that slaves should not hate their christian masters, and then says if anyone teaches anything else he is doting (WT--mentally diseased) on sayings, teachings, etc. Some versions say genealogies.

    6:1 Let as many servants as are under the yoke count their own masters worthy of all honour, that the name of God and [his] doctrine be not blasphemed.

    6:2 And they that have believing masters, let them not despise [them], because they are brethren; but rather do [them] service, because they are faithful and beloved, partakers of the benefit. These things teach and exhort.

    6:3 If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, [even] the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness;

    6:4 He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings

    The context is devotion to doctrine about Jesus, and about not rebelling against christian owners; the WT uses it against those who have left the organization. The rest of the chapter is an extolling of the benefits of simple living, with several well known maxims delivered about money being the root of all evil, etc.

    In other words, stay put, don't trash you christian masters and remember, money isn't everything anyway. The writer is interested in the status quo, possibly protecting the economic interests of the rich christian owners.

    For the WT to tar apostates with 1 Tim 6:3, 4 is a blatantly out of context application.

    They are also alone in rendering 'nowsn' as mentally diseased, though one meaning can be 'diseased'.

    The ancient world had no concept of mental illness or mental disease; those with 'issues' were seen to have demons.

    Paul DOES call out those who taught other than HIS message; he does not call them mentally diseased but says that God will deal with them.

    Hymenaeus and Alexander were among those Paul said had thrust aside their conscience and he handed them over to Satan; what that means we don't know, but what we know is that they were specifically apostate, saying the resurrection had occurred, and had blasphemed per Paul. He does not say that they were mentally diseased; he reserves that for those who didn't want to be slaves anymore.

    The WT's use of this expression, as has been noted, is a slur, and is insulting to the mentally ill and to those who no longer agree with the WT leadership.

  • N.drew

    Thank you for posting Pistoff. It is obvious to me the WT is taking the scripture out of context, thanks for getting the old brain thinking.

    Here's my take: Jesus leads to freedom, some who were under the yoke of their master were incorrectly applying the word about the freedom to their own life. That is what they were perhaps getting puffed up about. Also, they might have been unhappy about serving their master when they were now understanding all are brothers. It is a very good point you made Pistoff (I understand-God bless you), that then the scripture goes to telling about the love of money. The way I understand that, is one needs money to live, but slaves not so much, their basic needs are cared for by their masters. So maybe Paul is saying why do you slaves think making money is something to desire, be happy!

    The world danger, I believe, is Watchtower saying themelves are the words of Jesus. (verse 3) So who really are the apostates? (verse 4)

  • Pistoff

    I guess it shouldn't be surprise, the WT not only takes scriptures out of context; as Blondie points out during her WT review, they quote only parts of scriptures.

    In this case, they take 2 words out, arguably mistranslated words, and paint those who move on with their lives or those who dissent as being 'mentally diseased'.

    As many have said, they never take on the actual arguments or issues, just call their detractors names.


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