How many subjects did the WTS flip-flop on?

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  • Chemical Emotions
    Chemical Emotions

    I don't just mean changing from one idea to another, once, but actually go back and forth on their teachings. Teach one thing, then change it, then go back to basically the first belief.

    They seemed to do this with oral/anal sex, as well as women having to scream or fight during rape.

  • Black Sheep
    Black Sheep

    I didn't keep a tally. The resurrection of the Sodomites was probably the one with the most reversals.

    Another with quite a few was, who it was that was coming quickly in Revolutions 22:12?

  • Black Sheep
    Black Sheep

    Hint ....

    If you keep an eye on the Ragazines, you can get a Dub to adamantly support a position that is being changed in the rag that is waiting for him at the magazine counter.

  • blondie

    1) superior authorities

    until 1929, secular governments

    1929 to 1962, God and Jesus

    1962 to today, secular governments

    Superior Authorities (Romans 13:1)...

    = Worldly Governments or Authorities
    [Studies in the Scriptures Series I - The Divine Plan of the Ages (1886 edition) page 250]

    -1916 = Worldly Governments or Authorities
    [Studies in the Scriptures Series I - The Divine Plan of the Ages (1916 edition) page 266]

    -1929 = Jehovah God and Jesus Christ
    [Watchtower June 1 and June 15, 1929]

    -1950 = Jehovah God and Jesus Christ
    [This Means Everlasting Life (1950) page 197]

    -1962 = Worldly Governments or Authorities
    [Babylon the Great Has Fallen! God's Kingdom Rules! (1962) page 548]

    -1990 = Worldly Governments or Authorities[Watchtower November 1, 1990, page 11]

    2) organ transplants

    to 1967 okay

    1967 to 1980 df'ing offense

    1980 back to conscience matter, okay

    Organ Transplants...

    = Conscience choice.[Watchtower August 1, 1961 'Question from Readers']

    -1967 = Cannibalistic.
    [Watchtower November 15, 1967 ‘Questions from Readers’]

    -1980 = Conscience choice.[Watchtower March 15, 1980, page 31

    3) Sodom and Gomorrah

    many flip flops, in and out of Gehenna many times

    Resurrection of the Men of Sodom...

    = Yes.[Watchtower July 1879, page 8]

    -1952 = No.[Watchtower June 1, 1952, page 338]

    -1965 = Yes.
    [Watchtower August 1, 1965, page 479]

    -1982 = Yes.[Live Forever Paradise Earth 1982 edition, page 179]

    -1988 = No.[Watchtower June 1, 1988 page 31]

    -1988 = Yes.
    [Insight on the Scriptures Volume 2, page 985]

    -1989 = No.[Our Kingdom Ministry, December 1989, page 7]

    -1989 = No.[Live Forever Paradise Earth 1989 edition, page 179

    4) This Generation (Mathew 24:34)...

    = The Anointed
    [Watchtower February 15, 1927 page 62]

    -1942 = Anyone alive to see 1914[Watchtower July 1, 1942 page 204]

    -1995 = Wicked People alive today
    [Watchtower November 1, 1995 page 19]

    -2008 = The Anointed
    [Watchtower February 15, 2008 page 24

    5) Scream or not scream if raped

    These are not just a change forward to a new idea, but having one interpretation, going forward, then returning to the old interpretation.

    These are just a few.

  • NewChapter

    Blondie, that link on to scream or not to scream is just unforgivable! So not only does a woman have to fight for her life, she must also try to figure out where the WT stands today on the issue of screaming. How dare the elders think they have the right to interrogate a victim. Law enforcement used to be quite guiilty of secondary rape---but many are now trained to handle the situation differently. The elders can't even keep up with whether she should have screamed or not.

    Thanks for the link. It's all in the library--but you can't get a dub to look at it. So sad.


  • InterestedOne

    Wasn't there something about "Abaddon?" Or was that a one-time change?

  • blondie

    *** w50 6/1 pp. 172-173 A Completely New World for This Globe ***But did it remain pure and virtuous in its integrity? Did that first world continue as a part of God’s universal organization, submissive to Jehovah’s sovereign domination? The tragic facts that followed and which are now a part of mankind’s woeful history show that it did not. Rebellion broke out. Covetousness and lawlessness entered the heart of the "anointed cherub", and since then he has been known by such names as the Devil, Satan, Dragon, Serpent and Lucifer.

    * ** w 54 3/15 p. 186 par. 7 Stability and Permanence *** Next, Isaiah’s prophecy tells us the form this expression of iniquity took in Satan’s (Lucifer’s) mind and heart thousands of years later when Babylon became the third world power: "For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: . . . I will belike [match, Ro] the Most High." (Isa. 14:13, 14) Those are the initial facts. Now what is the legal aspect?

    Some quotes about Abaddon and Lucifer:

    *** w02 9/15 p. 30 Questions From Readers *** • Is Lucifer a name that the Bible uses for Satan?The name Lucifer occurs once in the Scriptures and only in some versions of the Bible. For example, the King James Version renders Isaiah 14:12: "How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning!"

    The Hebrew word translated "Lucifer" means "shining one." The Septuagint uses the Greek word that means "bringer of dawn." Hence, some translations render the original Hebrew "morning star" or "Daystar." But Jerome’s Latin Vulgate uses "Lucifer" (light bearer), and this accounts for the appearance of that term in various versions of the Bible.

    Who is this Lucifer? The expression "shining one," or "Lucifer," is found in what Isaiah prophetically commanded the Israelites to pronounce as a "proverbial saying against the king of Babylon." Thus, it is part of a saying primarily directed at the Babylonian dynasty. That the description "shining one" is given to a man and not to a spirit creature is further seen by the statement: "Down to Sheol you will be brought." Sheol is the common grave of mankind—not a place occupied by Satan the Devil. Moreover, those seeing Lucifer brought into this condition ask: "Is this theman that was agitating the earth?" Clearly, "Lucifer" refers to a human, not to a spirit creature.—Isaiah 14:4, 15, 16.

    Why is such an eminent description given to the Babylonian dynasty? We must realize that the king of Babylon was to be called the shining one only after his fall and in a taunting way. (Isaiah 14:3) Selfish pride prompted Babylon’s kings to elevate themselves above those around them. So great was the arrogance of the dynasty that it is portrayed as bragging: "To the heavens I shall go up. Above the stars of God I shall lift up my throne, and I shall sit down upon the mountain of meeting, in the remotest parts of the north. . . . I shall make myself resemble the Most High."—Isaiah 14:13, 14.

    "The stars of God" are the kings of the royal line of David. (Numbers 24:17) From David onward, these "stars" ruled from Mount Zion. After Solomon built the temple in Jerusalem, the name Zion came to apply to the whole city. Under the Law covenant, all male Israelites were obliged to travel to Zion three times a year. Thus, it became "the mountain of meeting." By determining to subjugate the Judean kings and then remove them from that mountain, Nebuchadnezzar is declaring his intention to put himself above those "stars." Instead of giving Jehovah credit for the victory over them, he arrogantly puts himself in Jehovah’s place. So it is after being cut down to the earth that the Babylonian dynasty is mockingly referred to as the "shining one."

    The pride of the Babylonian rulers indeed reflected the attitude of "the god of this system of things"—Satan the Devil. (2 Corinthians 4:4) He too lusts for power and longs to place himself above Jehovah God. But Lucifer is not a name Scripturally given to Satan.

    Yet in 1950 and 1954

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