why no mention of annointed fliting off to heaven at death?? LOL

by therevealer 4 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • therevealer
  • blondie

    Considered too much, too soon for non-jws to comprehend per the WTS. WTS wants to put down the foundation about not all Christians going to heaven after death.

    The Awake has been historically aimed at non-jws and avoids difficult WT doctrine until the person is mentally conditioned.

    The WTS even teaches that even anointed jws "Christians" did not go to heaven after death until 1918. After that they teach that they go instantly to heaven "in the twinkling of an eye" and do not spend any time in Sheol.

  • therevealer

    thanks for the comment blondie. More??

  • Essan

    As I recall, speaking openly of anointed ones being in heaven is reserved for Governing Body members. The Society shamelessly assumes that GB members have definitely gone to heaven, definitely be judged worthy, and definitely rewarded. They have no qualms saying this in the magazines when mentioning the death of GB members. No need to wait for God to judge them and reveal his judgment at some future time. Oh no. It's a done deal. And all the JW's fall in line with this.

    Not so when it comes to other anointed ones around the world, however. Then it's all "Well, we can't judge" "we can't know" and "perhaps", "One day we'll find out". etc.

    That is if they weren't just "mentally or emotionally unbalanced".

    Hierarchical clergy/laity Bull.

  • Larsinger58

    This is another JOKE and false teaching by the WTS. Here's why:

    "1 Thess 4: 15 For this is what we tell YOU by Jehovah’s word, that we the living who survive to the presence of the Lord shall in no way precede those who have fallen asleep [in death]; 16 because the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a commanding call, with an archangel’s voice and with God’s trumpet, and those who are dead in union with Christ will rise first. 17 Afterward we the living who are surviving will, t ogether with them, be caught away in clouds to meet the Lord in the air; and thus we shall always be with [the] Lord."

    What? That's right! NOBODY goes to their heavenly reward before anyone else! They all TOGETHER are changed. But how so?

    Simple, but startling. It's just as Paul says. FIRST the dead in Christ rise, then afterward they are all changed TOGETHER.


    Simple. First the dead who come back come back in the flesh. While in the flesh, they rule on the earth for 1000 years with Chirst who is also in the flesh. Why not? Why try to micromanage affairs on the earth for 1000 years from heaven? What are the 144,000 (actually 1,440,000!) going to do? Give inspired dreams and visions to the "other sheep" elders who are actually doing the hands-on work? Is God truly that disorganized. Let's hope not.

    Instead, Christ and the elect will be in the flesh ruling as kings and priests in the earth. So those who are alive when Christ returns will be joined by those who have died and will be resurrected. But for the 1000-year reign and Judgment Day which follows, they are all in the flesh. Then after Judgment Day, they all, TOGETHER are changed into spiritual bodies.

    This is what the Bible teaches. So this idea of the WTS that after 1918 the dead in Christ go straight up to heaven is a straight up false teaching! There is no way around it. I know, how embarrassing.

    THE REALITY: The reality is, though, hard to believe. If you read 1 Corinthians 15 you will get more details on how the 1st resurrection works. Basically it speaks of those being resurrected as being "seeds" who are implanted into physical bodies. The catch to that is the physical bodies into which each side is planted, one seed per body, is that these are LIVING BODIES of the modern elect. Thus the 1st resurrection occurs within the living bodies of the elect and is invisible. But it also means you don't have a lot of bodies coming out of the tombs freaking everybody out! How disorganized, right? Think of how complicated it would be to identify these people, take care of them, learn their ancient language and get them up to speed on what's happened since they have died! Instead, they share the mind and identity of a modern person and their orientation is instantaneous! Plus invisible!

    So the reality is, IF Christ actually did return in 1992 as Bible prophecy and chronology requires, then the 1st resurrection has already taken place. The reason it was not noticed is because as I stated above, it is invisible and these "seeds" are implanted into the physical bodies of other anointed elect.

    So all is well. The Bible is true. And the WTS is in spiritual darkness as prophesied since they are the "evil slave" and the "man of lawlessness."

    Now whether or not the 1st resurrection actually took place is a moot issue; it's still a false teaching to claim anyone went up to heaven before anyone else! I happen to know it's true, but then I'm in a unique position to know some of the insider things. Still, that doesn't change the false teaching, which should further demonstrate Jehovah has abandoned the WTS at this point.


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