Anyone answer this for me?

by Gandalf 7 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • Gandalf
    Gandalf

    You know the verse that prophecies that the city of Tyre will become a 'drying yard for dragnets' and '"never will you be rebuilt" for I myself Jehovah have spoken'(Ezekial 26:14)? So how come Tyre still exists today?

  • David Gladden
    David Gladden

    Opps!

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  • You Know
    You Know

    Tyre was one of the greatest cities of the ancient world. It dominated all trade on the Mediterranean Sea and acquired great riches. It has never returned to its former glory. The very fact that Jehovah foretold that it would be a drying yard for fisherman to dry their nets shows though that God was not foretelling that the city would be completely uninhabited. Tyre has been a sleepy little seaside town since it was rebuilt after its downfall. Also, more than likely, Tyre has a modern antitype and that is the primary fulfillment of what will never be rebuilt. / You Know

  • LittleToe
    LittleToe

    Tyre may be an antitype of Babylon the Great(funnily enough, that hasn't fallen yet, either).
    When the dragnets of Matt.13:47 are hauled in there will be no vessel with JW printed on it's side.
    What a shame - you know what that means...

    ...yup, those that have been sleepily sitting in a seaside town, oops, sorry, a well known borganisation, oops, sorry, ...

    ...well, I guess you know what I mean...

  • teejay
    teejay

    Haven't you learned how to read the bible? Sheesh!!

    He said Tyre would never be rebuilt but, er, um... meant something else, the understanding of His words to be supplied/arrived at by the generous syncophant (e.g. /You Know) as they saw how things really turned out centuries later.

    Sorta like in the Garden when He (supposedly) told Adam that Adam would die "in THAT day."

    "Well, what I MEANT was..."

    Jehovah always had a problem understanding the meaning and use of basic English (or Hebrew) words. Whatever.

  • Larsguy
    Larsguy

    THEY DON'T KNOW!!!

    You Know understands the Bible is a book of truth and there has to be truthfully fulfilled. He just gave his best guess.

    But the CRITICAL understanding has to come by the fact that another scripture clearly says that Tyre would survive and be of benefit to the Jews. So there is a prophecy in scripture that actually confirms that Tyre would survive as a city.

    So what have we here? One prophecy that says Tyre will never be rebuilt, and one that says it will be surviving fishing town.

    So what is the answer? BOTH ARE TRUE!!!

    The secret lies into which "Tyre" you're talking about. On city was built on the shore and then another city was built out in the water. So one prophecy has to do with the fortified city built in the water being destroyed and not being rebuilt; which it was not. But the coastal town would surviveas a successful fishing port.

    The KEY here, though, is the INCOMPETENCE in some who read just one of the prophecies about Tyre not being rebuilt and then seeing "aha, it's still here, the Bible must be wrong..." but not acknowledging elsewhere the Bible ALSO says that Tyre would survive as a fishing port and benefit the Jews into the future.

    What you must do is go one step further and look within the complexity of the city and its history to understand why BOTH references are true. That complexity is that there were really two cities, a coastal one and an island one. The island one is the one what would not be rebuilt and just become a drying yard for dragnets for the fishing town that would survive on the coast.

    BUT AGAIN, the most important point is that the Bible indeed is not in error and acknowledges that Tyre would survive in one of its prophecies and so that has come true. So Tyre does have TWO prophecies; one about a surviving city and one about one that would not be rebuilt. You have to apply the correct prophecy to the correct situation-city.

    So there you have it. Bottom line, the Bible can't be contradicted as being untrue when it says that Tyre would survive, thus it was acknowledged that one of the Tyre cities would survive while the other would never be rebuilt. BOTH prophecies are in scripture. So we must consider the ENTIRE REFERENCES here and then look for possible understanding. When that is done correctly the Bible always comes out as a book of truth.

    Cheerio,
    LG

  • dungbeetle
    dungbeetle

    some supportive info:

    http://www.probe.org/docs/auth-bib.html

    In Ezekiel 26, which was written in 587 B.C., Ezekiel prophesies that the mighty city of Tyre would be destroyed. Tyre was made up of two parts, a mainland port city and an island city half a mile off shore. Ezekiel predicted mainland Tyre would be destroyed by Nebuchadnezzar, many nations would fight against her, the debris of the city would be thrown into the ocean, the city would never be found again, and fishermen would come there to lay their nets.

    In 573 B.C., Nebuchadnezzar destroyed the mainland city of Tyre. Many of the refugees of the city sailed to the island and the island city of Tyre remained a powerful city. In 333 B.C., however, Alexander the Great laid siege to Tyre. Using the rubble of mainland Tyre, he built a causeway to the island city of Tyre. He then captured and completely destroyed the city.

    Today, Tyre is a small fishing town where fishing boats come to rest and fisherman spread their nets. The great ancient city of Tyre to this day lies buried in ruins exactly as prophesied. If we were to calculate the odds of this event happening by chance, the figures would be astronomical. No, it was not by coincidence.(7)

    http://bible.christiansunite.com/Torreys_Topical_Textbook/ttt587.shtml

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  • Julie
    Julie

    Greetings all,

    Teejay, you said:

    :Jehovah always had a problem understanding the meaning and use of basic English (or Hebrew) words. Whatever.

    lol...glad I'm not the only one who came away with that impression, God was a really bad linguist for sure.....and so ambiguous.......not my kind of author at all.......

    Regards,
    Julie

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