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    Comments You Will Not Hear at the 05-22-2011 WT Study (MARCH 15, 2011, pages 24-28 (READY)

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    “Prove yourselves ready, because at an hour that you do not think to be it,

    the Son of man is coming.”—MATT. 24:44.


    Noah was told to load the ark 7 days before the flood started…he knew the end was coming in exactly 7 days. Members of the WT organization have been waiting since 1879 for the end to come in 1914, 1915, 1920, 1925, 1940’s, 1975, 1984, 1994.

    Will God give jws a similar advance notice? “interior rooms” = congregations?

    ***w75 5/1 p. 278 par. 26 Why We Have Not Been Told “That Day and Hour” *** We, however, do not need to know the “day and hour” when God’s coming destructive act will begin. Survival of the animal creation has not been entrusted to us nor does the preservation of God-fearing persons—now found in over two hundred lands around the earth—depend on their all getting inside some physical structure in one location.

    *** w09 5/15 p. 8 Where Should You Be When the End Comes? ***
    Enter Into Your Interior Rooms”

    “Go, my people, enter into your interior rooms, and shut your doors behind you,” states Isaiah 26:20. “Hide yourself for but a moment until the denunciation passes over.” This prophecy may have had its first fulfillment in 539 B.C.E. when the Medes and the Persians conquered Babylon. Upon entering Babylon, Cyrus the Persian apparently commanded everyone to stay indoors because his soldiers were ordered to execute any found out-of-doors.

    In our day, the “interior rooms” of this prophecy could be closely associated with the more than 100,000 congregations of Jehovah’s Witnesses around the world. Such congregations play an important role in our lives. They will continue to do so through “the great tribulation.” (Rev. 7:14) God’s people are commanded to go into their “interior rooms” and hide themselves “until the denunciation passes over.” It is vital that we develop and maintain a wholesome attitude toward the congregation and be firmly resolved to stay in close association with it. We can take to heart Paul’s exhortation: “Let us consider one another to incite to love and fine works, not forsaking the gathering of ourselves together, as some have the custom, but encouraging one another, and all the more so as [we] behold the day drawing near.”—Heb. 10:24, 25.

    Could be is hardly definitive. Grammatically speaking, 'could' is used to talk about theoretical possibility and is similar in meaning to 'might'. A theoretical possibility is not a factual certainty.

    *** w01 3/1 p. 21 pars. 16-17 Salvation for Those Who Choose the Light ***Regarding that dangerous time, Jehovah warns us: “Go, my people, enter into your interior rooms, and shut your doors behind you. Hide yourself for but a moment until the denunciation passes over. For, look! Jehovah is coming forth from his place to call to account the error of the inhabitant of the land against him, and the land will certainly expose her bloodshed and will no longer cover over her killed ones.” (Isaiah 26:20, 21; Zephaniah 1:14) This warning showed the Jews how to survive the fall of Babylon in 539 B.C.E. Those who heeded it would have stayed in their houses, safe from the conquering soldiers out in the streets. Today, the “interior rooms” of the prophecy likely have to do with the tens of thousands of congregations of Jehovah’s people around the world. Such congregations are a protection even now, a place where Christians find safety among their brothers, under the loving care of the elders. (Isaiah 32:1, 2; Hebrews 10:24, 25) This is especially true in view of the nearness of the end of this system of things when survival will depend on obedience.—Zephaniah 2:3.

    What does the WTS say is the ark today?

    "During the final period of the ancient world that perished in the Flood, Noah was a faithful “preacher of righteousness.” (2 Peter 2:5) In these last days of the present system of things, Jehovah’s people are making known God’s righteous standards and are declaring good news about the possibility of surviving into the new world. (2 Peter 3:9-13) Just as Noah and his God-fearing family were preserved in the ark, survival of individuals today depends on their faith and their loyal association with the earthly part of Jehovah’s universal organization." Watchtower2006 May 15 p.22 "Are You Prepared for Survival?" Paragraph 8

    What does a person have to do to be in the ark—only baptized jws?


    What is the current understanding of whether it rained before the flood?

    *** w981/15p.9par.6“WalkingbyFaith,NotbySight”*** Had there been rain prior to this? The Bible does not say. Genesis 2:5 says: “Jehovah God had not made it rain.” But this is how Moses, who lived centuries later, expressed matters in discussing not Noah’s day but a time long before that. As shown at Genesis 7:4, Jehovah referred to rain when speaking to Noah, and evidently Noah understood what he meant .


    1, 2. (a) What events foretold in Bible prophecy

    can be compared to an attack by a tiger? (b) How

    does the coming attack affect you? .

    FOR years, a noted performer entertained

    audiences by interacting peacefully with

    his trained Bengal tigers. He said: “When an

    animal gives you its trust, you feel like you

    have been given the most beautiful gift in

    the world.” But on October 3, 2003, that

    trust ended. For no apparent reason, one of

    his animals, a 380-pound (172 kg) white tiger,

    attacked him. That attack was totally

    unexpected, and the trainer was not prepared.


    So why doesn’t the WTS use the name of this “noted” performer? Why make people guess?

    Siegfried and Roy


    Has the WTS proven to be trustworthy? 1914, 1915, 1920, 1925, 1940’s, 1975, 1984, 1994….flipflopflip doctrines

    Superior authorities: secular governments, then Jesus and God, and back to secular governments


    Organ transplants okay until 1967, 1967 to 1980 dfing offense, 1980 okay again


    Sodom and Gomorrah resurrection: back and forth several times


    2 It is of interest to note that the Bible

    foretells an attack of a “wild beast,” and we

    need to be ready. (Read Revelation 17:15-18.)

    Whom does this beast attack? In a stunning

    plot twist, the Devil’s world becomes

    divided against itself. The scarlet-colored

    wild beast represents the United Nations,

    and “the ten horns” represent all the political

    powers. These will turn on the harlotlike

    Babylon the Great, the world empire of false

    religion, and violently destroy her. When

    will this event occur? We do not know the

    day and the hour. (Matt. 24:36) We do know

    that it will be at an hour when we do not expect

    it and that the time left before this attack

    is reduced. (Matt. 24:44; 1 Cor. 7:29) It

    is vital, then, that we keep ourselves spiritually

    ready so that when that attack occurs

    and Christ comes as Executioner, he will

    also prove to be our Deliverer! (Luke 21:28)

    To achieve this state of readiness, we can

    learn from faithful servants of God who

    proved themselves ready and thus became

    eyewitnesses of the fulfillment of God’s

    promises. Will we take these real-life experiences

    to heart?


    Scarlet-colored wild beast = United Nations (WTS changing tune)


    Ten horns = all the political powers

    Past definitions: all political powers

    Only some powers in UN

    All powers in or outside UN

    Babylon the Great = world empire of false religion

    Past definitions: Papacy

    “we do not know the day or the hours” but the WTS has predicated the date: 1914, 1915, 1920, 1925, 1940’s, 1975, 1984, 1994


    "Receiving the gift, the marching children clasped it to them, not a toy or plaything for idle pleasure, but the Lord's provided instrument for most effective work in the remaining months before Armageddon." Watchtower1941 September 15 p.288 CLICK HERE for scan





    1975-and beyond



    "The fact that fifty-four years of the period called the "last days" have already gone by is highly significant. It means that only a few years, at most, remain before the corrupt system of things dominating the earth is destroyed by God." Awake!1968 Oct 8 p.13 CLICK HERE for scan


    Did the WTS show that they believed it was at a time that was not expected when the WTS said it would be in these years?

    Jesus is going to execute all 7 billion plus non-jws, men, women and children, to descend into eternal destruction?

    Prove Yourself Ready—Like Noah

    3. What conditions made it challenging for Noah

    to serve God faithfully?

    3 Despite the sickening conditions that

    prevailed on earth during his lifetime, Noah

    proved himself ready to see the fulfillment

    of God’s promise. Imagine the challenges

    Noah had to face as rebel angels materialized

    in human form and cohabited with attractive

    women! These unnatural unions

    produced superhuman offspring, “mighty

    ones” who used their superior power to bully

    others. (Gen. 6:4) Think of the violence

    that was fomented as these giants caused

    havoc wherever they went. Consequently,

    wickedness prevailed and man’s thinking

    and behavior became thoroughly depraved.

    The Sovereign Lord Jehovah then issued a

    divine decree that marked the beginning of

    the end for that ungodly world.—Read Genesis

    6:3, 5, 11, 12.*

    *As to the “hundred and twenty years” mentioned at

    Genesis 6:3, see The Watchtower, December 15, 2010,

    page 30.


    Noah was told to enter the ark, 7 days later the end came. Will jws have the same time space?

    Unnatural unions—angels mating with humans was viewed the same as humans mating with animals.

    What about Noah’s father Lamech and his grandfather Methusaleh…did they die before the flood?

    So why destroy a 1 month old baby…eternally…?

    At a New York convention Fred Franz was asked if only Jehovah's Witness kids would survive Armageddon, and he said "Well, little nits eventually become lice, and little rats grow up to become big rats. (Gruss 44)

    4, 5. In what ways are conditions in our day similar

    to those of Noah’s day?

    4 Jesus prophesied that the conditions in

    our day would be similar to those in the

    days of Noah. (Matt. 24:37) For example, we

    also witness interference by wicked spirits.

    (Rev. 12:7-9, 12) These demon angels materialized

    in the days of Noah. Although

    they are now barred from materializing as

    humans, they endeavor to control young

    and old alike. Behind the scenes, these sex

    perverts derive pleasure from the evil and

    debased actions of those whom they can

    corrupt on the earth.—Eph. 6:11,12.


    Similar not the “same”

    Since the “demons” are invisible how do jws know that the interference is from them?

    So where does it say the wicked angels are sex perverts corrupting people on earth? Ephesians 6:11,12?

    Ephesians 6:11-12 (New International Version)Put on the full armor of God, so that you can take your stand against the devil’s schemes. For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.

    What about the sex perverts (pedophiles) in the jw congregations who made just as invisible by the WT organization?

    5 God’s Word describes the Devil as “a

    manslayer” and says that he has “the means

    to cause death.” (John 8:44; Heb. 2:14)

    His power is limited when it comes to

    causing death directly. Nonetheless, this vicious

    spirit fosters deceit and seduction. He

    plants murderous attitudes in the hearts

    and minds of people. For example, 1 out of

    every 142 children born in the United States

    will become a murder victim. With senseless

    violence so prevalent, do you think that

    Jehovah will take less notice today than he

    did in Noah’s day? Will he fail to act?


    “His power is limited when it comes to causing death directly

    So does Satan cause people to murder one out of every 142 children in the US?

    Again why does the WTS fail to cite their source?


    6, 7. How did Noah and his family demonstrate

    faith and godly fear?

    6 In due time, Noah was informed of

    God’s decision to bring a deluge of waters

    upon the earth, bringing all flesh to ruin.

    (Gen. 6:13, 17) Jehovah instructed Noah to

    build an ark shaped like a huge chest. Noah

    and his family went to work. What helped

    them to obey and prove themselves ready

    when God’s judgment arrived?


    In due time, 120 years, but WTS says it was 70 years later that God told Noah.

    So what organization was Noah part of? Did he have to obey a governing body? Was he unable to communicate with God without one?

    7 Deep faith and godly fear moved Noah

    and his family to do as God commanded.

    (Gen. 6:22; Heb. 11:7) As family head, Noah

    stayed alert spiritually and avoided the corruption

    of that ancient world. (Gen. 6:9)

    He knew that his family needed to guard

    against adopting the violent ways and defiant

    attitude of the people around them. It

    was important that they not become engrossed

    in the everyday affairs of life. God

    had a work for them to do, and it was vital

    that the entire family center their lives on it.

    —Read Genesis 6: 14, 18.


    As God commanded, directly to Noah not through an “organization” or “governing body.”

    Do jws center their lives…do the Bethelites, what a party crowd they are.

    Noah and His Family Proved Ready

    8. What indicates that the members of Noah’s family

    practiced godly devotion?

    8 The Bible account focuses attention on

    the family head Noah, but Noah’s wife and

    his sons and their wives were also worshippers

    of Jehovah. The prophet Ezekiel confirmed

    this. He said that if Noah were living

    in Ezekiel’s time, his children would not be

    delivered on the basis of their father’s righteousness.

    They were old enough to obey or

    disobey. Therefore, they had personally given

    evidence of their love for God and his

    ways. (Ezek. 14:19, 20) Noah’s family accepted

    his instruction, shared his faith, and did

    not allow the influence of others to hinder

    their God-given work.


    Why is there no record of Noah’s wife’s name or her daughter-in-laws?

    What if his children had been ten years old?

    9. We can point to what modern-day examples of

    Noahlike faith?

    9 How encouraging today to see within

    our worldwide brotherhood family heads

    who are doing their utmost to imitate

    Noah! They realize that it is not enough

    to provide food, clothing, shelter, and

    education for their families. They must also

    care for their spiritual needs.

    In doing so, they are proving

    themselves ready for what Jehovah

    will soon do.


    Family heads = single women as well but not recognized such in the past in the organization

    But would it make since to give a person a bible when they are starving and living on the street. James 2:15,16


    Noah and his family kept focused on Jehovah’s work

    10, 11. (a) While inside the ark, how did Noah and

    his family undoubtedly feel? (b) What question do

    we do well to ask ourselves?

    10 Noah, his wife, his sons, and their wives may have

    worked on building the ark for some 50 years. As they

    built the ark, they must have gone in and out of it hundreds

    of times. They waterproofed it, stocked it with food, and brought

    in the animals. Picture the scene. The big day finally arrives. It is the

    17th day of the second month of the year 2370 B.C.E., and they go

    into the ark. Jehovah shuts the door, and it begins to rain. This is no

    mere local flood. The water canopy, or heavenly ocean, bursts

    open, and a torrential downpour pounds

    the ark. (Gen. 7:11, 16) People outside the

    ark are dying while those inside are being

    saved. What might Noah’s family have felt?

    Profound gratitude to God, yes. But undoubtedly

    they thought, ‘How glad we are

    that we walked with the true God and

    proved ourselves ready!’ (Gen. 6:9) Can you

    picture yourself on the other side of Armageddon,

    your heart swelling with similar appreciation?


    MAY HAVE worked on building the ark for some 50 years


    17 th day of the second month (see Harold Camping and his calculations)

    Water canopy = see Isaac Newton Vail from the 19 th century the basis of the WTS water canopy teachings, “Annular Theory” 1874 the basis of today’s creation science (please note there is no mention of him in the WTS publications after 1950 on the WT-CD…I wonder why?


    JF Rutherford, Creation, 1927, p.25-30

    “The theory that is reasonable and supported by the Scriptures is entitled to a candid consideration…it seems to have been the plan of Jehovah God to begin the increase of light upon his great work for the benefit of man about the year 1874 A.D. It was in that year that Isaac N. Vail first published a pamphlet entitled “The Earth’s Annular System.” …a brief summary of the annular theory as stated by Mr. Vail is here given here…the annular system relative to the earth, as advocated by Mr. Vail, is reasonable. It is supported by truth revealed in the word of God.”

    11 Nothing can stop the Almighty from

    fulfilling his promise to bring an end to this

    satanic system of things. Ask yourself, ‘Do

    I have absolute confidence that none of

    God’s promises will fail even in the slightest

    detail and that all of them will be fulfilled at

    his appointed time?’ If so, prove yourself

    ready by keeping close in mind that fast approaching

    “day of Jehovah.”—2 Pet. 3:12.


    Bring the end in 1914, 1915, 1920, 1925, 1940’s, 1975, 1984, 1994?

    Did God’s promises fail then or did the WTS?


    Moses Remained Alert

    12. What could have blurred Moses’ spiritual vision?

    12 Let us consider another example. From

    a fleshly viewpoint, Moses seemed to be in

    an exceedingly advantageous position in the

    Egyptian world. As the adopted son of Pharaoh’s

    daughter, likely he was highly esteemed

    and enjoyed the finest of foods, the

    best of clothing, and the most luxurious of

    surroundings. He received an extensive education.

    (Read Acts 7:20-22.) He may have

    been in line to inherit a magnificent estate.


    OT = Moses

    Fleshy = worldy, a term the WTS has tried had to drop by the wayside

    HE RECEIVED AN EXTENSIVE EDUCATION—was Moses eliminated as a choice because he had an extensive education?

    MAY HAVE = the WTS adds to the bible

    13. How did Moses remain focused on God’s promises?

    13 Apparently, early training by his parents

    allowed Moses to discern the folly of idol

    worship practiced by the Egyptians. (Ex.

    32:8) The educational system of Egypt and

    The material splendor of the royal house did

    not cause Moses to abandon true worship.

    He must have pondered deeply over God’s

    promises to his forefathers and had a keen

    desire to prove himself ready to do the divine

    will. After all, Moses told the sons of Israel:

    “Jehovah . . . the God of Abraham, the

    God of Isaac and the God of Jacob, has sent

    me to you.”—Read Exodus 3:15-17.




    So if Moses could avoid being influenced, others could too.

    God’s sure promises helped Moses to remain watchful

    14. How were Moses’ faith and courage put to the


    14 Unlike all the idols representing the lifeless

    gods of Egypt, Jehovah, the true God,

    was real to Moses. He lived his life as if he

    could see “the One who is invisible.” Moses

    had faith that God’s people would be liberated,

    but he did not know when that would be.

    (Heb. 11:24, 25, 27) His strong desire to see

    the Hebrews set free was manifested by his

    defending an Israelite slave who was being

    abused. (Ex. 2:11, 12) However, it was not

    Jehovah’s time, so Moses had to live as a fugitive

    in a faraway land. No doubt it was

    difficult for him to go from enjoying the

    comfortable surroundings of the Egyptian

    court to living in the wilderness. Still, Moses

    proved himself ready by keeping awake to

    every instruction Jehovah gave him. Thus,

    God could use him to bring relief to his

    brothers after he spent 40 years in Midian. At

    God’s direction, Moses obediently returned

    to Egypt. The time had come for Moses to

    carry out a divine commission and to do

    God’s work in God’s way. (Ex. 3:2, 7, 8, 10)

    Back in Egypt, Moses, ‘the meekest of all

    men,’ needed faith and courage to appear

    before Pharaoh. (Num. 12:3) He did so, not

    just once, but time and again as the plagues

    proceeded, not knowing from one plague to

    the next how many more times he would

    need to go before Pharaoh.


    Quite a few snippets and cited scriptures---???

    EVERY instruction---so killing the Egyptian was directed by God?

    Not knowing how many more times—of course if jws saw the Nile turn red, etc., and not several failed dates, 1914, 1915, 1920, 1925, 1940’s, 1975, 1984, 1994

    If jws had seen a burning bush and an angel—it would have been more clear

    15. Despite setbacks, what moved Moses to remain

    watchful for opportunities to honor his heavenly Father?

    15 Over the next 40 years, from 1513 B.C.E.

    to 1473 B.C.E., Moses faced disappointments.

    Yet, he watched for opportunities to

    honor Jehovah and wholeheartedly encouraged

    his fellow Israelites to do so. (Deut. 31:1-8)

    Why? Because he loved Jehovah’s name

    and sovereignty more than his own name.

    (Ex. 32:10-13; Num. 14:11-16) Despite disappointments

    or setbacks, we too must continue

    to support God’s rulership, confident

    that his way of doing things is wiser, more

    righteous, and better than any other. (Isa.

    55:8-11; Jer.10:23) Is that how you feel?


    Faced disappointments—missed going into the Promised Land because of his own actions

    Support God’s rulership = supporting the WTS/FDS/GB

    *** w07 4/1 p. 25 par. 16 Loyal to Christ and His Faithful Slave *** Out of sheer gratitude and loyalty, the other sheep lovingly support Christ’s anointed “brothers” on the earth during this time of the end

    His way or the WTS way?

    Keep Awake!

    16, 17. Why does Mark 13:35-37 have profound

    meaning for you?

    16 “Keep looking, keep awake, for you do

    not know when the appointed time is.”

    (Mark 13:33) Jesus gave that warning when

    discussing the sign that would mark the

    conclusion of this wicked system of things.

    Consider the concluding words to Jesus’

    great prophecy as recorded by Mark: “Keep

    on the watch, for you do not know when

    the master of the house is coming, whether

    late in the day or at midnight or at cockcrowing

    or early in the morning; in order

    that when he arrives suddenly, he does not

    find you sleeping. But what I say to you I say

    to all, Keep on the watch.”—Mark 13:35-37.


    You do not know when the appointed time is = 1914, 1915, 1920, 1925, 1940’s, 1975, 1984, 1994?

    17 Jesus’ exhortation is thought provoking.

    He referred to four different

    watches of the night. The final watch would

    prove to be a challenging time to stay awake,

    for it lasted from about three in the morning

    until sunrise. War strategists consider

    this to be the most effective time to attack

    the enemy, affording the best opportunity

    to catch them “sleeping.” Likewise now,

    when in a spiritual sense the world is sound

    asleep, we might have our greatest struggle

    to stay awake. Do we have any doubt that we

    need to “keep awake” and “keep looking”

    for the foretold end and our deliverance?


    Final watch = 3 a.m. to sunrise

    War strategists = who?

    The world = all non-jws

    OUR deliverance = only jws

    18. As Jehovah’s Witnesses, what inestimable privilege

    do we have?

    18 The animal trainer mentioned at the

    outset survived the attack by the Bengal tiger.

    But Bible prophecy unmistakably indicates

    that neither false religion nor the rest

    of this wicked system will escape the approaching

    end. (Rev. 18:4-8) May all of God’s servants,

    young and old, see the seriousness

    of doing all they can to prove

    ourselves ready for Jehovah’s day as did

    Noah and his family. We live in a God dishonoring

    world in which teachers of false religion,

    as well as agnostics and atheists,

    mock the Creator with their speech. But

    we cannot risk being affected. Let us take to

    heart the examples that we have considered

    and stay watchful for opportunities to defend

    and honor Jehovah as “the God of gods,” yes,

    “the God great, mighty and fear inspiring.”—

    Deut. 10:17.


    WICKED SYSTEM = 7 billion non-jws, men, women and children, eternally destroyed, no hope of a resurrection

    Do You Recall?

    Why did Noah need to give priority

    to his family’s spiritual needs?

    How are our times remarkably similar

    to Noah’s day?

    Despite disappointments, why did

    Moses keep his eyes focused on Jehovah’s


    What Bible prophecies move you to

    stay awake spiritually?


    We’re still here…what did the WTS say it was more important to be on the watch than have the right date?

    *** w76 7/15 p. 441 par. 16 A Solid Basis for Confidence *** However, say that you are one who counted heavily on a date, and, commendably, set your attention more strictly on the urgency of the times and the need of the people to hear. And say you now, temporarily, feel somewhat disappointed; are you really the loser? Are you really hurt? We believe you can say that you have gained and profited by taking this conscientious course. Also, you have been enabled to get a really mature, more reasonable viewpoint.

    Next week, KEEP AWAKE, AS JEREMIAH DID. And we know he was a good Christian, not! Remember who was Jeremiah preaching against, the Israelite rulers and religious leaders…the WTS of the past.

    Love, Blondie

  • clarity

    Blondie, Thanks to you my 'critical thinking' is alive and well.

    It is sickening really, to realize that I used to gobble up this stuff and not even notice all the "evidentlys, perhapses, maybys" etc ....so naive of me. Some days I just feel like kicking my a$$!!!

    Keep up the good work, it's so appreciated!


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