Homeschooling and JW children

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  • Pams girl
    Pams girl

    How many JW kids are homeschooled where you are? Its not very common here in the borough where I live. I just found out on the grapevine that a girl I know is taking her kids out of our very good primary school because she feels the other children are having such a bad influence on her kids. Theyve already moved twice before to my knowledge because of "worldly influences".

    While I dont disagree with homeschool per say, I was just wondering if this was common amongst JW kids?

    I feel so sorry for her children...they are 4 and 6 years old.....poor little mites dont live in the real world and now they will be isolated even further.

    Paula x

  • Mr. Falcon
    Mr. Falcon

    I grew up with quite a few home-schooled JWs (although I myself was not). I did have one interesting observation. When it came to home-schooling, they either followed through and finished their course (strangely some even going to community college later) or they never even bothered to do their schooling and resulted in being barely literate white trash with no skills whatsoever.

    The many cases where the kids didn't finish their schooling seemed to me like the kids just didn't want to go to school and the parents were just like "whatever".

  • petitebrunette

    Homeschooling is very common where I live. The sad thing is that the children are so socially backward and actually kinda weird. They will have major problems being liked in the workplace. I agree with Mr. Falcon, some are super into it, and some take every activity in their daily lives and turn it into schoolwork.

  • Pika_Chu

    It's really common where I live. This one sister pulled her kids out of middle school cause two girls were supposedly kissing. While akward and inappropriate, I really thought that was extreme. I mean, to JWs, homosexuality and kids dating are the two worst sins. Worse than a lot of other things. Screwed-up priorities...and an extreme view to perfectionism and all that.

  • Mad Sweeney
    Mad Sweeney

    I think it is more and more common in the USA. I am frankly surprised the Borg doesn't openly support it because in my experience it creates the cultiest of cult members.

  • 2tone

    homeschooling is very common in the US. In my area, I feel the majority of them are homeschooled. Many do not even finish the homeschool. I know several past the age of 18 who are only freshman or sophomre. I know somebody who homeschooled and is 20 and has a 7th grade education.

    Then we wonder why we have a simplified watchtower in english only. hmmm....

  • designs

    They never ever tackled Algebra.............

  • watersprout

    My sister and I were homeschooled... I was because of the ''fear'' the Borg created in me and my sister was because of the severity of the bullying she went through cause of being a dub!

    My mom worked bloody hard with us! She spent every night planning our work for the next day! I went onto College and got some qualifications. (getting qualifications in what i actually want to do now). My sister ended up with very good, well paid jobs.

    We were the only dubbies in our Cong that were HS... My parents were slated for it.

    Carrots ex g'friend was HS and her parents did no schooling with her! She was {in carrots own words} as thick as pig s@*t... Ended up working as a part time cleaner and pioneering!

    Both my sister and I would have loved school if it had not been for being dubbies! God i HATE THAT RELIGION!


  • Pams girl
    Pams girl

    Hahaha Watersprout........poor carrot.x

    Never try to teach a pig to sing, it wastes your time, and annoys the pig................! x

    PAULA x

  • yknot

    I (born-in JW) was homeschooled some, knew others as well...

    I homeschool off and on with my kids too.....

    Homeschooling is 'BIG' in my area and the JWs tend to 'group' together allowing 'mother's day out' as well as loosely associating with other 'worldly' homeschoolers as many of the are 'Christian' based.

    Many JWs in my area assert social things but usually it is an academic issue--- (really they are teaching STDs in 6th grade and stop teaching spelling in 3rd!)

    A few years ago Bro. Losch delivered a talk that suggested we keep our kids from the grasps of public school until the law demanded attendance.

    Generally speaking children are fine being homeschooled until 9th grade in which social needs to interact with peer group are in the best interest of the whole development of the child.

    This all said.... many homeschoolers are not isolated rather they cluster in groups or associate with larger co-ops. Some states have availabilty of online charter schools where the child is technically still in 'public school' too. Sure you get the over-applying fundy or slacker do nothing parent happens in JW homeschooling but it happens in all other aspects of homeschooling too....

  • strymeckirules

    my parents pulled me and my brother out of public school and put us on home school when i was in grade 10. they found out i have a girlfriend at school and that was enough reason to screw up my education..

    then after about 4 months, they realized it wasn't working. they were not up to being teachers or enforcers, so we slept in and i basically did as little work as possible to punish my parents for takeing me out of school. so they tried to re -enroll me in school part way during the year.

    see, i was so over protected that i wasn't allowed to have worldly friends and i barely got to hang out with my witness friend, school was my only freedom out of the mindcontrol. at school i didn't have to listen to my parents warped ideas, and i had many friends.

    anyways, i left home before grade 11 was over and got back in to school. but it was very difficult making up the credits to graduate from that point on.

    homeschooling sucks. there is WAY more paperwork required to pass a grade.

  • pirata

    Growing up, my mother (a JW) did not like the idea of home schooling. The reason was that if you never got used to learning to stand up for your beliefs and interact with your peers, you would have a tougher time as an adult stepping out into the real world. I am thankful for that.


    My brother and sister in law home schooled thier kids. They made excuses that it was too hard for the kids to go through the school year with holidays and such. They home schooled and it was a disaster. They had to send the kids back after a couple of years. One got kept back and the other one dropped out. Poor habits that get impounded into their heads. They did end up getting their GEDs and getting some schooling under the belt [1 year course], but it was a struggle to get to that point.

    The biggest problem with home schooling is that if you don't know the material that you're teaching or how to teach the material, [and that was the case with the parents] then you can't explain it to your students [kids].

    Do your children a favor and let them 'learn' in a real school. just [humble?]my opinion.


  • MrFreeze

    Judging from the public schools in my city, you are better off being homeschooled. I was home schooled and it turned out pretty well for me.

    And it had nothing to do with being a JW. My mom gave me a choice and chose to try it and I liked it.

  • saltyoldlady

    I homeschooled my daughter right from the beginning - but it had nothing to do with being one of Jehovah's Witnesses. I just thought It was the best way to raise her and would have loved to have grown up that way myself. There was no one else in our local area doing it at the time - this was back in the late 70's into the 80's - but in the metropolitan areas it seemed people were more accepting of doing things differently. When we moved to a very small community out in the sticks - oh my goodness - they nearly wanted to DF me for taking such a course with my child. By that time she was ready for high school work. We suffered quite a bit of verbal backbiting about the matter but did everything per the law of the land so there was nothing they could do about it except deny my daughter the right to pioneer which broke her heart at the time.

    We never needed to spend more than a couple hours a day on the school work - used Christian Liberty Academy for the gradeschool years and then American School for the highschool course. They placed her directly in 3rd grade upon their entrance tests and we took two years to complete the third grade. I worked very diligently with her in that time. She was able to pick things up easily but had a terrible time learning to write legibly at first. She breezed thru High School and received her diploma at age 13.

    Then I arrived one home the next fall after a grocery shopping excursion and found her in a puddle of tears with her daddy - when I asked why he told me she was devastated she would never get to know what public school was like cause she had already graduated and all her friends at the KH were going to public school - she had seen them signing up that fall day - there were an unusual number her age at our hall - 7 of them all in the same age bracket. So daddy hauled her off to see if she couldn't take a course or two at the public school for the kicks of it - was told "no" - she already had a diploma - no could do. My husband was a character - loved to tease people with a straight face - so he announced "who do I need to get out the gun and shoot" over this - wouldn't have gone over today - this pre 9/11. They told him he would have to get special permission from the Superintendent of Schools.

    That was an easy matter to do - he had interviewed us before in order to get the permission to homeschool. And we had a good repoire so he said she could take any thing she wanted in any grade at the high school. I was shocked she decided to sign up for all freshman course subjects but that was because she wanted to be with her buddies from the KH. She got her name on the Marque for Student of the Year type stuff - a no no for KH kids and that brought ostracism too. But one thing that made me feel good they put her through the SAT test in the spring and I of course had wondered if we had done a really good and adequate job with our home schooling efforts. She garnered the top half of the top 1 percent for the nation so I put my fears to rest on that matter. Turns out she has a great IQ - she didn't get it from me. But home schooling was easy for her and gave her time to acquire tons of other talents along the way.

    One major mistake we made - not permitting her to go on to college. We moved back to the big city at the end of that year and she could have gone to the University but we were good Jdubs so we didn't do that. Now in her late 30's she is having to pursue that college degree along with working full time and being a mother of five teenagers. But the job promotion opportunities kept passing her by because she didn't have the "degree."

    Social skills - she never lacked for those - she was by nature very outgoing and always had lots of friends from the hall to play with after school during the week and weekends. And the ability to approach strangers and present oneself with poise is trained into us with field service work. In fact a funny experience in that regard was with the school superintendent I had mentioned earlier - he saw us in the grocery store and asked if she was our daughter when he saw us together. Yep I replied. And then he told about her coming to his door one early Saturday morning and he gave her "the gruff old man" treatment - later felt so ashamed of himself about it - but he had been irritated about being woken up Saturday morning to talk about religion. Told us she handled it with magnificent poise and a sense of humor - completely won him over. Told us we could be proud of her. What he didn't know is she used to practice her presentation on her daddy who was an old man - he was age 48 and I 37 when we produced her so she had "old" parents - and he always teased her with gruff old men responses giving her the worst of times. So she was perfectly at home with that kind of response and just responded to the superintendent as if he were her father.

  • the_raisin

    I know a girl who used to be homeschooled. She's two years younger, and she used to give me book study when I was eleven. In high school, her parents kept her home for freshman and sophmore year. It was a fact she was easy, did drugs, and I guess in her junior year she got put in public school for some reason. She ran among my circle, and was really pretty, but always seemed to be doing something against JW doctrines. Last I heard, her dad was still an elder and her brother a pioneer regardless of the knowledge of what the girl did.

  • jeckle

    What about sports and other stuff. I mean I'm a single dad and work full time I'd have to quit work then I wouldn't have money for it. I guess it works for some and not for others.

  • Pams girl
    Pams girl

    Thanks for all your comments ladies and gents

    PAULA x

  • stillstuckcruz

    Quite a few JW's in my hall are homeschooled. One mother said it was because she didnt want all those bad influences and drama. But it makes me wonder how these kids fare when they get older and get a job in the real world. If you spent very little time with worldly kids in school, how do you learn to handle the pressure of the working world?

    Of course its fine for some kids. But I don't think it's for everyone and should not be for all of your school years, especially for a JW.

  • Ding

    I don't know how many JWs home school.

    I am a big proponent of home schooling if people want to do it.

    I believe parents -- not the government -- have the primary responsibility for educating their children.

    If parents want to sent their children to government schools, non-government schools, or educate them at home, that should be their right and choice whether they are JWs or anyone else.

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