Yes. Pass the beer please.
No, we are amazing and full of potential.
"Empty vessels" is just an example of the kind tedious cliches that some believers enjoy using to demean our humanity.
we are amazing and full of potential.
We are indeed amazing and full of potential, dear Satanus (peace to you!). That potential includes hate... as well as love. Which is why what we put "into" ourselves... and, even as important, our children is important. And I don't mean food/drink (albeit, in this day and age that could have some adverse effect on the overall good mental health of a child).
If we fill that child with anger and hate... while it is true that he may not necessarily become one who is angry and hateful (however, that's quite rare and usually become either he or someone else overshadowed that anger and hate with "something else"), he will become the product of that anger and hate. Usually manifest in things like low self-esteem, under/over-inflated ego, obsessive compulsiveness, schizophrenic, phobic, PTSD, and many other non-biological and/or harmful (to self and/or others) "illnesses."
Again, there are various "sources" as to what goes into us, including but not limited to our parents/siblings/family, friends/peers, culture, community, environment, etc.
I find it funny that some took this negatively when they would most like be on the forefront of saying that babies aren't born with hate in them (although anger is often there, regardless). Such ones learns hate from those who "fill" them. It is the same with love, dear one.
Now, are we CURRENTLY still empty vessels? Some of us, yes; some, no. But from the outset, yes, we are. We don't come into the world "full."
I hope this helps and clarifies... and I apologize if this truth struck some unpleasant "chord" with you. I don't know how or why, but apologize if that occurred.
Again, peace to you!
YOUR servant and a slave of Christ,
what cofty said
Our thoughts are what become our reality, individually and also as a race. Making people believe they are empty vessels makes them see the glass half empty...propaganda for suppression of the masses.
It's so amazing and humbling to think that at one time I thought I was "special" to God because I believed the Bible. Silly me.
We all begin our lives as empty vessels, and then learn (or fill up) from there - I think we can also empty some out, and fill up again on different things.
Our thoughts are what become our reality, individually and also as a race.
And when do those thoughts start, dear ProdSon (peace to you!)? In the womb? At birth?
Making people believe they are empty vessels makes them see the glass half empty...propaganda for suppression of the masses.
That's if that's what you're trying to do (make them believe) and what you/they want to believe (the glass is half empty). I see no point in either. Seems to me, allowing them know that they have the right... and potential... perhaps even the obligation... to fill up on GOOD... is beneficial. To them, you, society. It is ultimately their choice, of course, but not at the start, is it?
It's so amazing and humbling to think that at one time I thought I was "special" to God because I believed the Bible.
You know, that is one thing in life that I have not yet be able to do... or that I "get" with others who seem to do so: think that I am special. Special... how? Because I'm a girl? Not the only one. Black? Not the only one. Poor? Not the only one. Not so poor? Not the only one. Sick? Not the only one. Relatively healthy? Not the only one. Believe the Bible? Don't anymore but not the only one when I did. Understand certain things, including some of what's in the Bible? Not the only one and not the only thing I understand some of. Hear Christ? Not the only one.
Feeling "special" is... ummm... a bit frightening to me. Because it's one of the things for which there is not guarantee of constantcy. Indeed, the day usually comes when such one finds they aren't so special, after all. So, my position is why even go there? Nothing wrong with being human and pretty much just like everyone else.
Don't fret, dear Prod: we are ALL silly at some point or other in our lives. Some of us more than others. Me, certainly more often than not. But that's what helps make us human, isn't it. Otherwise, we really ARE special, aren't we?
Peace to you!
YOUR servant and a slave of Christ,
"Are we empty vessels, that need filling?"
Damn.... All I came up with, was a sexual innuendo...
Beer, yah. Reminds me, i gotta get some.
Aguest, see the other thread.
If we begin our lives empty, do many old people end their lives empty? What about those that you saw pass away?