Psalms 83:18

by Joey Jo-Jo 6 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • Joey Jo-Jo
    Joey Jo-Jo

    Got a question I got stuck on, the original Hebrew wording has YHWH, so it says:-

    That people may know that you, whose name is Jehovah,
    You alone are the Most High over all the earth.

    That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth.(KJV)

    That they may know that thou alone, whose name is Jehovah, art the Most High over all the earth.(Darby)

    May they know that You alone—
    whose name is Yahweh—
    are the Most High over all the earth (HCSB)

    http://www.scripture4all.org/OnlineInterlinear/OTpdf/psa83.pdf

    I know that they preach that the name Jehovah is like a revelation but would this mean that jw's stand in using the word has some weight to it?

  • Black Sheep
    Black Sheep

    They are not the only religion to teach that.

    Read what the Catholic Encylopedia says about Jehovah...

    Jehovah - Proper name of God in the Old Testament

  • NeonMadman
    NeonMadman

    The Old Testament name for God is YHWH, which has been translated as "Jehovah" in some English Bibles. "Yahweh" is probably a better rendering. When Jewish scholars around the 2nd century BC made a Greek translation of the Hebrew Scriptures (known as the "Septuagint," which is abbreviated "LXX"), they chose to use the word for "Lord" rather than the actual name of God, since there was a Jewish tradition at the time of not pronouncing the Name. The apostles, in writing the New Testament books, quoted freely from the LXX without ever making any bones about the fact that the divine Name had been "removed" from it. Apparently the fact that they regarded Jesus as having the "name above EVERY name" was more important to them than the correct rendering of YHWH.

    Psalm 83:18 is a big deal only because it is one of the four places where the translators of the King James Bible broke from their usual custom of rendering YHWH as "Lord" and instead rendered it as "Jehovah." Nonetheless, there are over 6000 other places where the Hebrew manuscripts contain YHWH that could just as legitimately have been rendered "Jehovah," so Psalm 83:18 is nothing special in that regard. The JW's have just made a big deal of it because so many people own the King James Version and they could surprise people by getting them to open their own Bible and see that God's name is Jehovah. In the New Testament, the name of Jesus is the one that is important; the name of Jehovah is never directly mentioned, and the NT writers had no problem quoting the LXX using "Lord," when the actual Hebrew said YHWH. So the issue of the Name wasn't as important a matter as the JW's would have it.

    By the way, this also means that it wasn't "the churches" that removed the name of Jehovah from the Bible, as the JW's would have you believe - it was the pre-Christian Jewish translators of the LXX, and the apostles tacitly endorsed that usage by quoting the LXX in their writings without objection.

  • NeonMadman
    NeonMadman

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  • NeonMadman
    NeonMadman

    The Old Testament name for God is YHWH, which has been translated as "Jehovah" in some English Bibles. "Yahweh" is probably a better rendering. When Jewish scholars around the 2nd century BC made a Greek translation of the Hebrew Scriptures (known as the "Septuagint," which is abbreviated "LXX"), they chose to use the word for "Lord" rather than the actual name of God, since there was a Jewish tradition at the time of not pronouncing the Name. The apostles, in writing the New Testament books, quoted freely from the LXX without ever making any bones about the fact that the divine Name had been "removed" from it. Apparently the fact that they regarded Jesus as having the "name above EVERY name" was more important to them than the correct rendering of YHWH.

    Psalm 83:18 is a big deal only because it is one of the four places where the translators of the King James Bible broke from their usual custom of rendering YHWH as "Lord" and instead rendered it as "Jehovah." Nonetheless, there are over 6000 other places where the Hebrew manuscripts contain YHWH that could just as legitimately have been rendered "Jehovah," so Psalm 83:18 is nothing special in that regard. The JW's have just made a big deal of it because so many people own the King James Version and they could surprise people by getting them to open their own Bible and see that God's name is Jehovah. In the New Testament, the name of Jesus is the one that is important; the name of Jehovah is never directly mentioned, and the NT writers had no problem quoting the LXX using "Lord," when the actual Hebrew said YHWH. So the issue of the Name wasn't as important a matter as the JW's would have it.

    By the way, this also means that it wasn't "the churches" that removed the name of Jehovah from the Bible, as the JW's would have you believe - it was the pre-Christian Jewish translators of the LXX, and the apostles tacitly endorsed that usage by quoting the LXX in their writings without objection.

  • ProdigalSon
    ProdigalSon

    Jehovah is the most important word in Kabbalah, Freemasonry, and Enochian Magick. Like demons, the Satanists who run the Tower live off fear, and they use the name to generate it. Some have been led to believe they are diverting "worship", but the truth is that "God" neither desires nor requires "worship". God is internal to each of us and wants us to see the Creator in each other, and behave accordingly. It is instead emotional energy they are diverting and using for their own nefarious purposes in their Satanic rituals.

    Jehovah is internal, the TRUE SELF, the Inner Being, taken from the Hebrew Iod-Havah, the Iod being male and Havah being female. The Taoists call this Yin and Yang. The Watchtower's version is the Great Pharisee in the Sky who just can't wait to rain down fireballs on the Saturday morning door-slammers.

    I found this Kabbalah pendant on e-bay for $30.....

    Tetragrammaton Kabbalah Pendant

  • Darth plaugeis
    Darth plaugeis

    I always liked the Idea... God and I were on a first name basis.

    Worldy friends alway opened a prayer with..... God.

    But me........

    Hey Jehovah ... whaaaatttssss uppppppp

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