Firefox gives eternal pain to Eternal Life. Apologies!

by Doug Mason 3 Replies latest watchtower bible

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  Doug Mason

  Hi,

  I seem to have been causing some grief with my posts and threads. Humble apologies!

  I think it is mostly because I was using Firefox and at times I was pasting from Word. Although, when I think about it, in this particular instance I did a copy and paste from a Pradis software accessing the NIV.

  In particular, in the following Post (if all goes according to Plan A), I repeat the post that I made to the Thread on "Eternal Life", for which I am probably responsible giving it eternal death (using IE this time and typing directly).

  Doug
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  Doug Mason

  (Referring to the subject of "Eternal Life").

  The passage you need, and it is my favourite, is 1 John 5:11-12:

  "And this is the testimony: God has given us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. He who has the Son has life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have life." (NIV)

  Notice that it is written in the present tense. When you read the context, including the first chapter, you see that Eternal Life resides innately within Jesus, and that a believer shares in that Life -- here and now. When a person stops believing in Jesus (ceases being a believer), they no longer share in that Life.

  Eternal Life speaks of its qualities, not its length.

  How do we know that we already have Eternal Life? Because God says so (see 1 John 5:10). It is not proven by emotion, or by feelings.

  A most helpful reference is "Life in the Son", by Robert Shank, pages 301 to 305. Do you have accessto that book?

  Doug
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  transhuman68

  Thanks, Doug.

  Is this view of what Jesus meant widespread among Bible scholars?
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  Doug Mason

  transhuman68,

  The simple answer is "no". These views are generally held by those known as Arminian, as against those who are Calvinist. I suggest a search of the www under those terms.

  These Arminianist views are well promoted in the book, "Life in the Son", by Robert Shank.

  Doug