HOW to ask about the "new light", inwhich nobody can give a reply

by EndofMysteries 8 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • EndofMysteries

    The April 15th WT, where it's all talked about......

    First in par 12 speaks of how the holy spirit operates as illustrated by the chariot, yet it's speaking about the cherub and the living creature there. They then apply that to 'as you already know' if there is a heavenly organization then there would be an earthly one. it speaks of the 'wonderful new light', and how the 'faithful and discreet slave classroom' been using the WT to study.

    Then an example of this 'new light'. Consider the generation Jesus spoke of in Matt. THEN we get to the good part, "'Evidently' Jesus meant....., and it was evident.....".

    The SHORT questions. Please explain to me, how the spirit directed them with this new understanding? What scriptures did it come from? HOW HOW HOW did Jesus EVIDENTLY mean this? WHAT IS SO EVIDENT? Where is the scriptural backing, or did they use a blank WT as toilet paper and printed what was on it after wiping their hiney as the new explanation? How did it go from those annointed in 1914 would not die until the end, to those who were alive to understand what was going on 'reasonably 15 years of age or older', to those 8 years of age or older, to anybody born in 1914, to the overall time period of 1914, to this overlapping generation of annointed people? What was the scriptual backing and spirit?

  • Mickey mouse
    Mickey mouse

    I've got another question:

    If holy spirit directs every change in understanding, what happened in 1995 when a generation was redefined as "the wicked generation who saw the sign of Jesus presence but failed to mend their ways?"

    Was the holy spirit:

    1. Deliberately propogating a falsehood, or
    2. Was the F&DS providing this new definition without guidance from the holy spirit?

  • Sherilynn

    You need to call Patterson 1-845-306-1000 and ask your questions. See my post under Explaining the NEW Generation. I did call and stated I could not see a scriptural reference for two groups making "this generation" and asked him if he could and his response was "I can not" so I think more people need to call them with questions and if still in the org need to nicely ask their elders or pioneers.

  • EndofMysteries

    I'll try to find the quote, but the 'first' understanding was the 'annointed' ones in 1914, then went to those of age who could understand, then just anybody born, then the 'wicked' generation, and now back to annointed. The light keeps getting brighter and brighter as it goes in circles.

  • Cagefighter

    What's funny about the org is you either get so brain dead that logic doesn't matter or you see so many changes and you fade. Either way it takes care of it's self.

  • Black Sheep
  • Black Sheep
    Black Sheep

    Start with your weakest Dubbie and work your way up.

    All of the best arguements for the WT's case have been posted here, just use the search function if the answer doesn't smack you in the face.

    Ask your question as though you are earnestly seeking the truth, but don't accept any bullshit.

    Know the relevant literature to refer them to before you ask them your question.

    Know their answer before you ask the question

    Have fun or .........

    ...... don't play their game.



  • Aurelius

    Effectively the WTS attribute all it's doctrine to the Holy Spirit, including all the clearly wrong teaching e.g. 1935 closing the general call for the annointed and previous 'this generation' understandings.

    Is this not blasphamy against the holy Spirit.

    Jesus Christ warned against such an act.

    Mathew 12:31 (NWT)

    31 “On this account I say to YOU , Every sort of sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the spirit will not be forgiven. 32 For example, whoever speaks a word against the Son of man, it will be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the holy spirit, it will not be forgiven him, no, not in this system of things nor in that to come.

  • man in black
    man in black

    marked for further reading.

    Looks interesting, thanks for the posts, neat stuff !

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