What did Luke Mean? Jerusalm will be Trampled on" ...
For how many Centuries now has satan been the unseen Power as 'god of this World;' holding Authority over the many ruling Dynasties of Kings that have ruled and dominated this earth, to the hurt of earths inhabitants? Along with all of the Religious establishments that have ruled over and dominated their followers, misleading them all on a path of error? It can be said, with certainty, ever since the Fall of Adam in the Garden of Eden, satan has held those positions; with his Religious Empire holding sway over all the inhabitants of Mankind. In the beginning it started out with Adam and Eve Worshipping Jehovah; he was their God, they were his two people. As such their Worship was directed only to him. It was, to begin with, true Worship. Of course, it had a very small beginning, with only two people worshipping Jehovah in that Garden. Jehovah's intent though, was for the pair to fill the earth, with righteous perfect individuals like themselves, all Worshipping the ONE GOD of Truth. With his blessing upon them. {Revelation 13:1,2} {Luke 4:5-8}
Had they of remained in that perfect, righteous, sinless condition; what would have come out of the loins of Adam, would have been a race of human beings all Worshipping the One God of Truth, bearing the exact same condition as the pair started out possessing. A human Race of individuals all worshipping the one true God with his blessing upon all of them. True Worship would have been a Global condition. Why isn't it like that now?
Adam and Eve had followed the lie told by satan, and had obeyed satan's slyly designed countermand of Jehovah's true command, not to touch the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and evil; by saying to the Woman: "Is it really so that God said, you must not eat from every Tree of the Garden" You see! First plant the seed of doubt! Maybe you didn't understand what he meant, sort of thing. Get Eve to think maybe she hadn't understood correctly. So then, she would begin to examine the fruit more closely, and notice how desirable it was to look upon. Perhaps noticing the sweet aroma of it. From there an easy matter to take that first bite. Along comes Adam, he follows Eve's lead and he eats of the fruit because he knows she has, already eaten of it. {John 8:44}
Not to last very long, sad to say. satan, by misleading the Woman Eve, caused her to violate one of Jehovah's clear commands, not to eat of a certain Tree; for the moment they did that they would die. Adam too had followed the lead of his Wife, Eve, and he ate right along with her, bringing the penalty of death on themselves and on all Mankind.
Now satan had a World of humans that would come out of the loins of Adam, and because the pair had deviated from the true worship of Jehovah, would be born now, like Adam and his Wife; now dying sinners, not worshipping the true God, but worshipping satan the devil, because now, he, satan, was god of the World. Adam now cut off from the Tree of life could only pass on to Mankind all he possessed. A legacy of sin and death. A world filled with mortal humans subject to death worshipping the devil. {Romans 5:12} {2 Corinthians 4:3,4}
Many will very probably disagree with me on this following point, but the Pair as Jehovah had said: "The day you eat of it, you will surely die." Die they did that very day. Even though they lived on to populate the earth for a time. When Jehovah makes any statement what-so-ever, you know it's carved in stone. For without fail it will come true. That very day they both were dead in Jehovah's eyes, for violating his express command, not to touch the Tree. That is seen by the Angel he had placed to gaurd the way to theTree of Life. They were cut off from the source of life so were as good as dead, because Jehovah had told them they would be. When he makes any statement what-so-ever; take it to the Bank, it's as good as done. {Isaiah 55:10,11} {Genesis 2:16,17;3:1-7,15,24}
Right from the Garden of Eden, this entire World has been been held in the power of satan the devil! He has blinded and misled the entire inhabited earth! Every succeedding generation from Adam's Day, up until right now, has been under the power and control of the devil, blinded and misled by him. Like it! Don't like it! That's the way it is, and has been for some 6000 years now. {1 John 5:19} {Revelation 12:9} {2 Corinthians 4:3,4} Everything on this Planet today, belongs to satan the devil. The greedy Commercial Empire, the greedy Political Empire, and the even greedier Relgious Empire. It all belongs to satan.
Does this mean that Jehovah doesn't have a people on this earth today? No! It does not! Jehovah has always had his faithful ones on this earth. Abel, for one! Enoch for another who pleased God so well Jehovah took him. Doesn't say where. Just took him.
Along with those, Abraham Isaac, Jacob, King David, and a host of others metioned in Hebrews 11. There was also Noah! Moses! Lot!
Let us not forget God's Son, Jesus Christ! The Twelve Apostles! All of the first Century Christian's. Steven, for another who was stoned to death because of his faithfulness. Then the chosen ones metioned by Jesus at Matthew 24:24-
Then there's Jehovah's sentence passed on satan to consider that really, when looked closely at, reveals a great deal, that might just ordinariy be missed.
Notice first the mention of a Woman, who has a seed, that 's at enmity with the seed of the devil. So, we have two seeds to consider. One belonging to the devil, the other the Woman's.
15"And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; he shall crush thy head, and thou shalt crush his heel."{Genesis 3:15 DT}
Both Seeds are Religious entities, opposed to one another. There's a hatred between them both. We know the principle or main seed was, or is, the Christ. According to the following words of Paul:
"The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. The Scripture does not say "and to seeds," meaning many people, but "and to your seed," meaning one person, who is Christ." {Galatians 3:16 NIV} So, that's settled. The Christ is the primary seed. We know the Christ has 144,000 Anointed Brothers, who also make up a part of this Woman's seed.
Paul tells us the Promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed, which of course we know was the Christ, but was there only one seed belonging to Abraham? No! There was many, many more! The promise Jehovah made here to Abraham, he made also to Isaac and Jacob.
"The Angel of the LORD called to Abraham from heaven a second time 16 and said, "I swear by myself, declares the LORD, that because you have done this and have not with-held your son, your only son, 17 I will surely bless you and make your descendants as numerous as the stars in the sky and as the sand on the seashore. Your descendants will take possession of the cities of their enemies, 18 and through your offspring all nations on earth will be blessed, because you have obeyed me."{Genesis 22:15-18 NIV} Genesis 26:1-4;28:10-14}
I will point out at this point, all of the faithful worthys of old will be resurrected to life back here on earth, and all of these are said to belong to the Christ, due to the fact it is he that resurrects them all. So they are all Abraham's Seed, due to that fact. All of these looked forward to gaining the better ressurection. They considered disgrace for the Christ of greater treasure than the treasures of Egypt. That was the viewpoint of Moses, it would have been the same with all of them.
"If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise."{Galatians 3:29 NIV}
35"Women received back their dead, raised to life again. Others were tortured and refused to be released, so that they might gain a better resurrection."{Hebrews 11:35 NIV}
24"By faith Moses, when he had grown up, refused to be known as the son of Pharaoh's daughter. 25 He chose to be mistreated along with the people of God rather than to enjoy the pleasures of sin for a short time. 26 He regarded disgrace for the sake of Christ as of greater value than the treasures of Egypt, because he was looking ahead to his reward." {Hebrews 11:24-26 NIV}
Think about this for a moment! We know the prime seed was the Christ. We know the secondary seed would be his anointed Brothers; and we know all were to rule as King Priests. Ruling as Kings as they will be, constitutes them all, as the City of the living God, heavenly New Jerusalem. Or Jerusalem above.
As regards the Ancient worthies who will be resurrected to life on earth, being the seed of the Woman, would constitute them as Earthly Jerusalem. Where the Throne of Jehovah was. Where his Kings sat on his Throne in that City. Being as it is, they are the seed of the Woman as well. {1 Chronicles 23:29}
When was the hatred or enmity for this Seed first displayed? Was not Abel a part of the seed of the Woman who represented Jerusalem? So Cain was the first murderer of the seed of the Woman, was he not? Did not the trampling on earthly Jerusalem begin with that first murder of the seed of the Woman? Abel; in this case picturing Jerusalem, being as he was part of the seed of the Woman? How long has the butchery of the seed of the Woman been going on, and will it go on? Jesus told us right up until his Coming into kingdom power, that hatred and murder would be going on. {Matthew 24:9} {Revelation 12:1-17} Who did he hold responsible for most of the hatred and murder?
33"You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell? {Gehenna} 34Therefore I am sending you prophets and wise men and teachers. Some of them you will kill and crucify; others you will flog in your synagogues and pursue from town to town. 35 And so upon you will come all the righteous blood that has been shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Berekiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar. 36I tell you the truth, all this will come upon this generation."{Matthew 23:33-36 NIV}
Was Jesus to be delivering the words of Luke at Chapter 21:24 do you in your wildest dreams believe that Jesus would tell us that, that Nation of Jerusalem, was being trampled on? They were themselves the tramplers. Remember! They Killed him! They Stoned Steven to death! They hounded, hated, and persecuted the true followers of Jesus. They were a Nation of murderers. "Snakes and vipers" Jesus called them. In other words they had reverted over to demon worship. Can you trample on that? Tell me yes, I'll laugh in your face. How could they be trampled on by the Nations? They were the Nations! Doing exactly what the Nations did. Offered thier sacrifices to demons and not to God.
As far as the seven times of Daniels Prophecy was concerned all that pointed to was the end of the reign of Jehovah's line of earthly Kings until the installation of his Heavenly King, the ruler of the City of the living God, Heavenly New Jerusalem; the Jerusalem above, headed by the seed of the Woman. It had absolutely nothing to do with the appointed times of the Nations, because those particular times could not end until Jehovah's Chosen King took active rulership of God's Kingdom, and stood up as Michael the Archangel. Even when the King of God's Kingdom stands up and takes ACTIVE rulership the foretold hatred, persecution, and murder, is still going on against the seed of the heavenly Woman. It was actually a part of the composite sign of the COMING of Christ in kingdom power.
As far as Christ being invisibly present in 1914, that too is just so much bunk. The reason being he has been invisibly present ever since his ascension in the first Century. Remember please, he had finished the work his Father had given him to do. {John 17:4} He had conquered the World, according to his own words. {John 16:33} As a world conquerer, he had sat down at his Fathers right hand, and had received his Crown, and he said himself: "To the one that conquers I will grant to sit down with me on my Throne, even as I conquered and sat down with my Father on his Throne." {Revelation 3:21} Now, reasonably! What do his 144,000 anointed Brothers become when they sit down with Jesus on his Throne? They become crowned Kings, do they not? So what is Jesus who himself has conquered and sat down with his Father on his Throne? He too has become a crowned King, correct? When did Jesus first sit down down there? In the first Century after his ascension, correct? So he's been wearing that crown ever since he ascended. How long was he to sit at his Fathers right hand before becoming an active ruling King? Until the words of Psalm 110:1,2 were fulfilled correct? "Until I make your enemies a stool for your feet." When he hears the words: "Go subduing in the midst of your enemies." Michael will stand up and become an active ruling King of God's Kingdom. {Daniel 12:1}
As that ruling King, when he's again finished his work of fighting the War of the great day of God the Almighty at Armageddon, and satan's entire empire is wiped from the face of this earth, it will be then the Trampling on Jerusalem will end forever. satan will be chained and abyssed; no longer able to mislead the Nations anymore until the Thousand years has ended. No longer able to persecute and murder the seed of the Heavenly Woman. The Jerusalem Luke was talking about when he said:... "and Jerusalem {the Seed} will be be trampled on by the Nations until the appointed times of the Nations are fulfilled." They will be fulfilled at Armageddon. Do you know the date for that big event? Perhaps if you did, you'd be able to put an exact number to those times. Since you do not! You cannot! Now can you? {Revelation 16:14-16;20:1-3,7-10}
So, the Trampling on Jerusalem, turns out to be, the foretold enmity between the two seeds. The Seed of Satan. The Seed of the Woman. Which Woman's Seed represented the Jerusalem spoken of by Luke. How wrong a false Prophet can be,when they begin toying with Jehovah's Holy Word. Even worse! How dangerous for those that swallow the lies of these false Prophets.
15 "Woe to YOU, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because YOU traverse sea and dry land to make one proselyte, and when he becomes one YOU make him a subject for Ge·hen´na twice as much so as yourselves." {Matthew 23:15 NWT}
A very sad ending for those who believe, the Governing Bodies teaching, that the appointed times of the Nations began in 607 BCE, because was that teaching to be correct, then Michael would have stood up in 1914 and become an active ruling King of God's Kingdom, in that he already was invisibly present in the first century, and all that remained was for him was to stand up and take the reigns of power. So, if you're happy with being twice as much a subject for Ge-hen'na, I'm quite happy to give you my share of that. All I can say is: "Enjoy the Lie, if it's the lie that you love."
As for us today, since it is the New Covenant in force today, and has to do with Heavenly New Jerusalem, the Jerusalem above, established on the Blood of the primary seed of the Woman; that is the Jerusalem Luke was making reference to; it could never have been earthly Jerusalem that was at issue, because, like Nebuchadnezzer, who received his Kingship back, the Kingship was not restored to earthly Jerusalem, but as made crystal clear here, was restored as a Heavenly Kingdom. Heavenly New Jerusalem, that was recieving the Trampling on by the Nations. As a matter of fact, that Trampling is still in progress right now at this time, and certainly never ended in the year 1914, as taught by the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses that it did end in that year.
It's merely another Watchtower blunder which at this time they have had great experience at making those. 130 years of failed predictions and false prophecies qualifies them as very probably the best false prophet that's ever braced the scene, in that, they actually do look like a true prophet of Jehovah God.
Looks, though can be exposed! As can be false teachings, as I'll show"
Now , the Governing Body will tell us that they are the appointed Faithful Slave of the Parable in Matthew 24:45- Lets look deeply at that scripture, and compare it with one other I already have in mind to see if they are what they lay claim to being. First the one in Matthew-
"Who really is the faithful and discreet slave whom his master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time? 46 Happy is that slave if his master on arriving finds him doing so. 47 Truly I say to YOU, He will appoint him over all his belongings."{Matthew 24:45 NWT}
Okay! their claim is they are saying without actually coming right out and saying it, that they are appointed over God's House to dispense the spiritual food to the other members of the house at the proper time, That much is pretty clear isn't it? Now look at this other scripture that I had in mind:
1 "Consequently, holy brothers, partakers of the heavenly calling, consider the apostle and high priest whom we confess—Jesus. 2 He was faithful to the One that made him such, as Moses was also in all the house of that One. 3 For the latter is counted worthy of more glory than Moses, in-as-much as he who constructs it has more honor than the house. 4 Of course, every house is constructed by someone, but he that constructed all things is God. 5 And Moses as an attendant was faithful in all the house of that One as a testimony of the things that were to be spoken afterwards, 6 but Christ [was faithful] as a Son over the house of that One. We are the house of that One, if we make fast our hold on our freeness of speech and our boasting over the hope firm to the end." {Hebrews 3:1-6 NWT}
Notice here how Jesus is compared with Moses, who was in early times appointed over God's House, but then it tells us to view Jesus as having more honor than Moses. Worthy of more glory. Then we learn that it is Jesus was faithful as a Son OVER God's House. Then Paul tells us, "We are the HOUSE of that one." So it is Jesus who is appointed over God's House according to Paul's words here. The rest of his brother's constitute the HOUSE itself.
Recall the Faithful Slave was appointed over the domestics to give them their food at the proper time. So the domestics would have been members of the household, but not appointed over it.
They, as a body, would constitute the House, but dependent on the one appointed over the house for thier spiritual feeding. In this case Jesus was the one appointed over the house, that much is clear, is it not? I mean we have the Faithful Slave on the one hand on the other the domestics. Or as Paul said: "We are the House."So the house are the domestics, clear? The one appointed over them we learned was Jesus. So, don't know if you follow or not, but Jesus was the Faithful Slave. To
administer the food at the proper time. Certainly not the Governing Body as they claim.
Now I used the Jehovah's Witness Bible to show you that scripture in Matthew 24:45, but look how the picture changes using the NIV Bible.
"Who then is the faithful and wise servant, whom the master has put in charge of the servants in his household to give them their food at the proper time?"{Matthew 24:45 NIV}
Now we have a wise servant put in charge of the servants in the household. By the Master. Quite a difference now, isn't there?
Reading the New World translation, would you think to ask, Just whose household is in question here? Who is the Master referred to? Who is the wise servant?
To cut to the chase. The household belongs to Jehovah God. The wise servant is the Christ. The servants are members of God's Household. Showing the Governing Body is nothing more than a self-exalted false Prophet. That being the case, none of their teachings can, nor should be trusted. More particularly the appoint times subject.
We notice, at the time God's Kingdom actually does come into power, when the War in heaven is fought and satan and his demons are cast down to our earth, the Trampling on Jerusalem, the Seed of the Woman is going on with a vengeance, as satan goes off to wage War with them. So the age-old hatred is still going on even at this time. But foretold to go on by Jesus when he gave the sign of his coming. Notice Johns words:
Top of Form 1
"And the dragon grew wrathful at the woman, and went off to wage war with the remaining ones of her seed, who observe the commandments of God and have the work of bearing witness to Jesus." {Revelation 12:17 NWT}
So the hatred for the Woman is alive and well at this time, as the words of Jesus at Matthew 24:9 are being fulfilled, and the trampling on the Seed that pictured Jerusalem comes to a Boil, and just as Jehovah foretold in his words to satan the devil, violent persecution and murder breaks out against the seed of the Woman, as the age old ennmity or hatred is displayed on a World-Wide Scale. Note the words of Jesus on this very thing, note also why the hatred:
Now all the Nations are brought into the picture, displaying the foretold enmity Jehovah foretold at Genesis 3:15 and why the hatred? Jesus said: "Because of my name." What did the name of Jesus represent? He was Jehovah's designated King, was he not? King of What? The City of the living God. Heavenly New Jerusalem! The Jerusalem above. The Jerusalem Luke was making making reference to when he said: "Jerusalem will be trampled on by the Nations until the appointed times of the Nations are fulfilled." {Luke 21:24}
Bottom of Form 19 "Then people will deliver YOU up to tribulation and will kill YOU, and YOU will be objects of hatred by all the nations on account of my name. 10 Then, also, many will be stumbled and will betray one another and will hate one another. 11 And many false prophets will arise and mislead many; 12 and because of the increasing of lawlessness the love of the greater number will cool off. 13 But he that has endured to the end is the one that will be saved. 14 And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come." {Matthew 24:9-14 NWT}
Now! What do the words , Fulfill signify in this case at this time?
ful·filled
, ful·fill·ing, ful·fills also ful·fils1. To bring into actuality; effect: fulfilled their promises. 2. To carry out (an order, for example). 3. To measure up to; satisfy. See Synonyms at perform satisfy. 4.To bring to an end; complete.
Jesus was here telling us about conditions that would exist just prior to his taking Kingdom Power, it would be at this time the appointed times of the Nations along with their violent hatred for the Woman and her seed would finally come to an end. Armageddon would end the appointed times of the Nations once and for all. Those times would be finally fulfilled, or ended. Now, obviously, those times are still in progress. That is quite clear! So, if they are still running at this time, the seven times Prophecy could not possibly be applied to the words of Luke at Luke 21:24.
I have already shown what Daniels Prophecy pointed to in other articles I've done and put on the Boards, and it had abslolutely nothing to do with the Appointed times of the Nations. I can prove that! I Already have. But if I must, I'll do it again. Just for the sake of the unbelievers.
When satan and all of these hateful Nations, that have sacrificed to him, for the many Centuries of their existence are removed from this earth, so will end the hatred for the Woman and her seed, and the Trampling on Jerusalem, will be fulfilled; ended.
This all begets the question; since it's the Jerusalem above that's now experiencing this Trampling by the Nations, at what point would this particular Trampling begin? What might direct our attention to that particular Date? Consider now, if you will, Pauls words in the following scripture:
16"The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. The Scripture does not say "and to seeds," meaning many people, but "and to your seed," meaning one person, who is Christ."{Galatians 3:16 NIV}
So, the principle or main seed would be the Christ is that not true? We know that the Christ was murdered by the seed of satan, don't we? His execution took place in the first Century, we all know that as well. His death established the New Covenant, by virtue of his Blood. Now the way was open for all the Nations to come in under that New Covenant. Some also from among the Nations would now have opportunity to gain Heavenly Life, and rule as King Priests with the Christ, along with those chosen out of the Jewish Nation. Now, since the Christ was the Principle ruling King of God's Kingdom; would he not now be the ruling head of Heavenly Mount Zion, and Heavenly New Jerusalem? The City of the Living God? The Jerusalem above? All of that being true, would not the Christ himself picture the Jerusalem that was being trampled on, in that he was the one who suffered the extreme hatred Jehovah foretold in Genesis 3:15? By being murdered by the seed of satan the devil, by receiving as he did the foretold heel wound, instigated by the seed of satan? Which turned out to be the Jewish Nation? Now, lets face it, if any Jerusalem was to be trampled on, it had to be heavenly New Jerusalem, which trampling would begin at the execution of the Christ. Afterall was he himself not the promised seed of the Woman? Who would be at enmity with the seed of satan? One to receive a mere heel wound, the other a fatal head wound? As far as I'm concerned, that wraps it all up, and shows the Governing Bodies interpretation of Luke 21:24, is so flawed, it's laughable.
We now should be able to see what had occurred here. satan had started the Ball rolling, as can be seen by Jehovah's words to him at Genesis 3:15- because of that sentence passed on satan, Cain ended up with the enmity foretold by Jehovah, against his righteous brother Abel, displaying that hatefull disposition when he murdered Abel. He was the seed of satan. That seed contintinued to exist all down through the days of the Israelite Nation under the old Law Covenant. They too were of the seed of satan, because they persecuted and murdered the Prophets Jehovah sent to warn them away from their wicked ways. Evidenced by these following scriptures. {2 Chronicles 36:15,16} {Matthew 23:33-36}
When the Christ came on the scene, because he was the seed of the Woman, the hatred or enmity reverted over to him, and those under the new Covenant, and the enmity carried over. It was now on Heavenly New Jerusalem due to the change in Covenants, from Old to New. Christ had received the foretold heel wound, at his execution, and from there the enmity carried on. It is still going on right at this moment in time, and cannot end until satan is chained and abyssed, and his entire seed is wiped out at Armageddon. {Matthew 24:9} {Revelation 16:13-16; 20:1-3}
That trampling as should be seen now first began right when Cain slew his Brother Abel, and that sure wasn't in 607 BCE. Now you tell me, what that does to the Governing Bodies calculations that those times, as they say, began in 607 BCE- Ran for a period of 2,520 years and ended in 1914? If anyone could ever mess anything up, they sure as Hell have messed up this one; and they are Spirit Directed? Of course we all believe that, now don't we? Wannabe?