The best way to prove to a JW that 1914 is a false prophecy!!

by cyberjesus 4 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

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  cyberjesus

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  It doesnt matter! JWs WILL NOT HEAR or REASON any argument! Even if you had a time machine and took them straight to the Fall of Jerusalem and then to the day Rusell went to Egypt and measure the pyramids. Even if you had a signed document by Rusell himself stating that he borrowed that concept from the adventist.

  There is no argument for JW, they will not understand anything. Thats the problem. I see on this board posted argument after argument on how to debunk all the false teachings of the WT and the bible and some people posting the best and fastest methods they will not even take the time to THINK and ponder. It is as if they dont even hear or see at all.

  THATS THE PROBLEM. Their inability to think and to consider anything that goes against the WT doctrine. Once we can figure out how to open their minds to critical thinking then even the most complex and difficult research task will be understandable for them. Is not how easy or difficult to understand a fact is. Is the ability to HEAR the fact and consider it.

  There is a great number of people here that even though they left the WT still are not able to TEST all of their beliefs, they cant HEAR nor THINK about the arguments that go against what they believe. That process is painful and the brain, as a defense mechanism resists information that goes against the known facts, its uncomfortable to not know. We are more comfortable thinking that we are certain of something even that we havent checked our facts.

  Our Matrix is more complex than the one in the movie. Our Matrix has another matrix within the Matrix. When we leave the WT we usually only get out of the WT Matrix. But we want to believe in Christianity, in the bible. Not everybody test that Matrix. We are ok thinking that we are free from the WT. We are somehow comfortable. Its painful to examine it further. Some continue the process just to realize the Bible is not the book they thought to be. Another big realization in Existence. A second red pill. Then some after realizing that there is fantasy within fantasy question the Matrix of a Deity, a creator. A third layer.

  Is there any end? Do we really exist? Thats another problem of thinking. The uncertainty.

  What do you think?
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  EndofMysteries

  I'll post a real good one hopefully in the next week or so. But here is another way..........without disputing the information they got, can show the date 1914 is invalid.

  They used the 360 day prophetic cal to get to that. Now (don't have time to pull the scriptures), but you'll see in the bible, 1260 days, 1290 days, 390 days, etc.

  We know that there is roughly 365 days per year, and every 4 years have a leap year of 1 day.

  On the 360 day one, every 6 years, 30 days are added. So at the end of 6 years, 'our calendar of 365X6=2190+1(least 1 day cause the 4 years is in there=2191 days. Now 360X6=2160 (but since you add a LEAP MONTH that year) now at 2190. That's the first level of adjustment.

  Now on the 1914 prophecy, they did 360X7 = 2520 years. They ADMIT in some 1950's WT that a possibility supposed to have some leap days or years, but did not do it. They didn't know about the leap month every 6 years. So who cares if the date is 607/587/ or what, who cares if the scriptures used to make that assumption are in no way related, it's still wrong, they are off by 30 years using their own logic, and the date using their own logic would be 1944.

  Also, the 'original' way they got 1914 is not how it's currently used, they did the 6000 years since creation of Adam to 1874 (where do you think 1975 came from???) and Russell said after 1874 since it's 'this' generation, and a biblical generation is 40 years, 1874+40=1914. Now they said close to 1975 they were off by 100 years, and 600 years is 1975 or so, and that's how that all happened. I'm surprised they didn't readopt the 6000 years plus 40 because then that would of been 2014/2015 lol.
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  EndofMysteries

  Sorry, realized the above I have to disclose some more information for that to make sense. 1260 days are part of the first 3.5 days of a prophetic week, 1290 days are the remaining 3.5 days of a prophetic week. It reaffirms that 30 days are added at the end of 6 years.
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  cyberjesus

  as I was saying :-)
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  EndofMysteries

  You missed the point Cyberjesus, the arguments are generally trying to convince against what they are taught. What I showed you there, is using their own reasoning, but showing they forgot to add 30 years with their own reasoning.

  I know what your getting at though, or I think I do. Here is one for you, compare Cain's sons and Shem's sons, side by side. Go to Jesus geneaology in Matt or Luke, and notice the difference. Then, very closely compare Cain's son and Shem's sons again, do they seem strangely similiar?