Another question for Christians: 'No one comes to the father except through me'

by paul from cleveland 6 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • paul from cleveland
    paul from cleveland

    Often times the scripture 'no one comes to the Father except through me' is used as proof that we shouldn't recognize an earthly governing body. How does that scripture prove that a governing body isn't just part of the 'chain of command' leading to the father? It doesn't seem to necessarily preclude the possiblility of an earthly governing body by itself.

  • leavingwt

    All faiths are based upon a unique interpretation of Scripture. So, you can support the wildest of ideas with Scripture. We have the tens of thousands of Christian denominations to prove this point.

    However, there is no evidence whatsoever of a 1st Century (sitting) Governing Body. The NT mentions a single meeting of ALL elders to discuss the question of circumcision.

  • thetrueone

    An organization or a group of men make things up to self support their initiatives and agendas.

    In this regard the WTS has done what most other organized religions have done and that

    is shine a divine light over themselves and proclaim that we are the only true religion of god.

    This is how religions operate, take or leave it.

  • civicsi00

    Because Jesus didn't say "No one comes to the father except through me and you apostles, my faithful and discreet slaves." If he had, we'd be in a world of hurt.

  • iknowall558

    In the Watchtower 15th Dec. 1992, pg 32.......said this : - ".......Jehovah, the God who gives himself absolutely 'no scope for getting it wrong'.

    God CANNOT get things wrong. Even the WT acknowledges that. He wouldnt use a 'channel/gov. body' that has continually got things wrong and continually had to make changes.

    If Jesus did pick this group, and is 'directing' it, then it means that Jesus is continually getting things wrong too. But Jesus has been with God since the beginning, so does he not actually know what he should be teaching the GB? OF COURSE HE DOES ! He is the WORD of God. He continually speaks the if this GB were the 'mouthpiece' of God, the same way Jesus is.....then they would have everything right from the beginning and there would be no past trail of 'changes' with a whole host of people who have died as a result of their mistatkes.

    The Scripture tells us that MAN in his imperfection will get things wrong, and will deceive.

    Ephesians 4 :14

    "That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive. (King James Version).

    "Then we will no longer be like children, forever changing our minds about what we believe because someone had told us something different, or has cleverly lied to us and made the lie sound like the truth. (The Living Bible)

    The Gov Body. asserts that its authority is from God, and so coerce JWs into living their lives according to the decisions they make ; but those decisions hurt people, and at times cost them their lives. Instead of acknowledging its mistakes and asking forgiveness for the pain it has caused others, the GB continue in its insistence that its authority is from God. They shift doctrines to and fro without any conscience about how their doctrines are affecting others. This is an organization based on changing, contradicting teachings of a group of MERE MEN.

    The only way to the Father is through Jesus alone. He is the word of God. He cannot get it wrong. Why would he not be enough ? He alone died for the sins of the whole why would anything more than him be needed to lead people to the Father ?

  • teel

    There are many Bible verses saying that Jesus is the mediator between man and God. 1 Timothy 2:5,6 , Hebrews 9:15, 28 , Ephesians 1:7 , etc. There is no single verse that could even point that there should be a mediator between common man and Jesus.

    Even if we accept the parable of "faithful slave" says what the GB tells us it says, that offers no basis of mediatorship. The slave was there only to "dispense food", not to reconcile the other slaves with their master. On the other hand, that same passage talks about an evil slave, who put himself above the other slaves.

  • paul from cleveland
    paul from cleveland

    thank you all for your comments.

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