"MARKED" over UN issue

by Brother 1914 8 Replies latest jw friends

  • Brother 1914
    Brother 1914

    Last Oct.I was shocked to be invited to a "legal" party to be held in Feb. I was under the impression I had been "marked" since I was out of the loop close to a decade.

    So I checked the box that we'd be attending the big 50 Anniversary of my aunt & uncle, I included the UN fax & articles from Guardian paper. On the return card I added an asterisk by the checkmark.

    "Can you verify that there will be no public reading of "softball" articles of "AWAKE" promoting the UN at this event? I'd hate to see my young daughter exposed to the spiritual sight of Watchtower's feet 666' in the air.

    I received a reply this week.
    Dear ....
    Thank you for your response to our Anniversary Party Invitation. In view of how you made your feelings known we believe it would not be advantageous for you to come.
    We love you and wish you would feel differently.

    "We all gonna die of sumpin!"

    Former Surgeon General Dr.Joycelyn Elders in a speech to Colorado senior citizens.

  • Kismet

    I don't think it has as much to do with marking as it does with showing poor taste.

    I personally would have univited you too if you had shown such callous disregard for a happy family function to preach or shove your personal religious beliefs in my face like you did. Just like many claim the Witnesses do to their unbelieving family members.

    Hey I dislike the fact about the WTBS whoring itself to the UN as much as anyone here, but how you presented it was in my opinion, poor etiquette, reaching far over the line of rudeness.

    I think you owe your family an apology for poor timing.

    Did you really expect them to react any differently to your reply?

    Why do some insist on behaving like WT stereotypical apostates?


  • JT

    thanks for the post --sad to say it is further proof of the Typical JW Mindset"

    there are so many folks here who have gotten almost the same reaction on tellling family that they disagree with the org on an issue

    thanks for the post


  • anewperson

    And I think "you" (K) came down way too hard.

  • Kismet

    Maybe I did come down too hard.

    However it doesn't change the fact that IMO it was rude on his part.

    All his actions accomplished was to make his family dig in their heels and put blinders on. Such actions should be discouraged not encouraged.

    His JW family actually invited him to a function, reaching out an olive branch despite his being out of the org for 10 years. He shoved that olive branch in their face with his actions.

    People here condemn the Witnesses for shoving their beliefs in other people's faces, it would be hypocritical not to point out the same fault when done by ex-JW's.


  • rhett

    I would have uninvited you too. Yeah, they're cultists and everything but they sent you an invitation to their aniversary party and wanted to know if you were coming. What the hell does the UN thing have to do with their 50th aniversary? What did you expect them to say? "Wow, you're so right about everything! To think, we were just wanting to invite you to celebrate our long marige with us and you shared this life altering information with us. Thank you. You are so kind. Please come share it with all of our guests at our party. In fact, it won't even be our aniversary party, it'll be a party to tell all of these people who care about us that the JW's were in the UN." If nothing else they probally uninvited you because they didn't want you to make a big scene at a very special party to celebrate something wonderful. Look, I hate the JW's as much as anyone else here but you're no better than a JW who would use this occasion to recruit more people.
    Take a hint, its not that they really care what your were raising a comotion about, they just didn't want you to raise a comotion about anything. This was about their very special 50th aniversary. Their response was not a "typical JW mindset" (I'm not knocking that saying, I'm just arguing against it in this one case), it was a mindset that "We don't want this guy coming to our party that celebrates something very special to us and getting everyone upset about something that has absolutely nothing to do with this event."
    Stop giving apostates a bad name.
    Now I came down hard.

    I don't need to fight
    To prove I'm right
    I don't need to be forgiven.

  • TweetieBird

    I tend to agree with Kismet on this one. He may have been able to reach his family at a later time about the UN issue had he approached it differently. However, I can completely understand his (Brother 1914) wanting to stick it to them. He has probably had to listen to all of their subtle nudgings about "coming back to Jehovah" over the past ten years. But hey, no use crying over spilled milk.

    "I must stand up in search of the truth, if I don't I only roll with the flow of the lie and make it stronger.

  • dungbeetle

    During my ten years+ disfellowshipping, I would have given my right arm to be invited to a function like that. To just be noticed by someone like that would have been nice. A smile and a nod even in secret would have been nice.

    But I guess you're making sure to burn the bridges behind you, and for some that seems to be important. So be it, who is anyone to disagree with you. Not the least of which, it is very possible you were invited so everyone could turn in time talking to you. Who knows?

    Best wishes

    In 1975 a crack team of publishers was sentenced to death by a judicial commiteee. They promptly escaped from the cult and now live life on the run. If you have a problem ... and if you can find them ... maybe you can contact the A--postate Team"

  • Lindy

    At least you had the option of whether to choose to go or not and was uninvited after you said what you said.

    We received a nice invitation that was a print out sent to all for our niece’s graduation party a few years back. Told everything but where the party was and the time. My husband has never been a JW, but attended as a child. I was inactive but that is all. Our invitation had a hand written sentence added by my SIL at the bottom of the invitation that said, "We know that you will be with us in spirit." Now it wasn't that we lived far, just 5 miles away.

    We joked about holding a séance for her that day so that we could attend in spirit.

    So our invitation was an "uninvitation" in truth, and a hit for a gift, I would guess. Can you believe how "loving" and “Christian” this came across to our family, especially my daughters who were this cousin’s own age and attended meetings with her and went out in service with her. Yep, wanted to run right back to the KH after that incident! [>:(]

    This same SIL now a couple years down the road, having received a junk computer from a "brother" as a "gift" to the same said graduate above, continually calls my husband and asks for computer advice and upgrades and the like. He doesn't really mind but I think it is a bit hypocritical of her. He is not welcome to the niece’s party but he is welcome to come to her home and fix a crappy “gift” a cheap “brother” unloaded on her daughter as a “graduation gift”. Hmmm.

    Lindy, who is enjoying her freedom from leaving the Society far behind.

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