Doctors say they are misquoted by WTBTS?

by Gladring 5 Replies latest watchtower medical

  • Gladring
    Gladring

    In a recent thread, Skeeter said that there was a european documentary in the last few months in which doctors complained that the WT had misquoted them. Does anyone have more info on that documentary, or if those complaints are in print anywhere?

  • Gladring
    Gladring

    Anyone?

  • wobble
    wobble

    Hi Gladdy ! good to see you back here ! I hope you and the family are all well, and enjoying the snow !

    The only thread I remember recently was of a lady who the WT said was a doctor, to give their mis-quote more power, in the context of child abuse, but though an expert in the field of adult abusers, she was not a doctor, and her comments had nothing to do with what the WT were on about. (???)

    I know that a You Tube video was posted in which she explains all.

    Sorry I cannot be more explicit, but perhaps that may jog someone else's memory.

    A happy New year to you, the Missus, and the little fella !

    love

    Wobble

    p.s I don't know if your interest is because of the recent case of a JW lady losing her life due to refusing a BT ? if so Miss Chievous who posts on here says she knew her and may be of use to you, or am I barking up the wrong tree, or more likely, barking mad ?

  • skeeter1
    skeeter1

    This was posted in a previous thread, which I couldn't find. But, I kept it the information tagged in my computer.

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    This is in French, and is 7 parts. The overall French translation follows, but you are welcome to get your own translator. Notice, that doctors are saying that the Watchtower misquoted them.

    Voici (enfin…) sur YOU TUBE le reportage LE MONDE PARFAIT DE JEHOVAH (diffusé par la télévision Belge RTBF (La Une) DEVOIR D'ENQUETE le 23/09/2009)
    Pour se conformer au format exigé par YT, c'est découpé en 7 parties d'une durée de +/- 10 min.

    LE MONDE PARFAIT DE JEHOVAH (partie 1#7) 9:42

    http://youtube.com/v/bc41IeqJVeo

    LE MONDE PARFAIT DE JEHOVAH (partie 2#7) 9:52
    http://youtube.com/v/W4m6UXxYaRg

    LE MONDE PARFAIT DE JEHOVAH (partie 3#7) 9:48
    http://youtube.com/v/a9Zz8lTqryg

    LE MONDE PARFAIT DE JEHOVAH (partie 4#7) 9:44
    http://youtube.com/v/7IvXgFApdWk

    LE MONDE PARFAIT DE JEHOVAH (partie 5#7) 9:36
    http://youtube.com/v/sShjc4PO6iE

    LE MONDE PARFAIT DE JEHOVAH (partie 6#7) 9:41
    http://youtube.com/v/libccZr3UJc

    LE MONDE PARFAIT DE JEHOVAH (partie 7#7) 5:37
    http://youtube.com/v/oCU0vsVOfqI

    Part 1 - Members are under constant psychological stress. Pedophile paradise. Most new baptisms are on kids of current JWs.

    Part 2 - Multiple failed prophesies on armageddon --> fear-based so that must seek safety within compliance with the Watch Tower. 24,000 members in Belgium . Refused to answer challenging questions not trained to respond to. Organizers of the convention refused to be interviewed. The woman with the X-mas tree and a daughter said the religion attempted to isolate them, she saw limited choices for her daughter. Children are explicitly threatened with destruction by Jehovah, by monstruous beasts, or by Satan. WT imposes rules on all aspects of their daily life.

    Part 3 - Children are bullied and teased at school for being 'cult members', undergoing isolation & depression. Reporters speak of shunning. A psychotherapeute states that JW children are unable to develop normally in the areas of emotion and afection. Ex-JWs describe their experience, exit and difficulty adapting to the real World. Higher education is discouraged.

    Part 4 - Psychologist says he was misquoted in JW publications, he states the JWs live in an "incomplete reality". JWs have no freedom of choice or thought. They speak of the effects of shunning, which has prompted an important law suit with basis on "discrimination"; the first round of it was won by the WT. Blood transfussion refusal makes them a "martyrs cult". Belgian physicians respect an adult's refusal to transfusion but -by law- will not comply if the patient is a minor. Many children died before this law.

    Part 5 - Surgeon Philipe Van der Linden says he and his colegues were misquoted by WT publications. The French parlamentary commission on sects has noted the JWs as a "dangerous sect"; the belgian parliament on sects is also working on a similar statement or recommendation; under such possible new law, there could be criminal prosecutions of those responsible for causing dangerous psychological unstability to others. The reporter mentions the labor of Bill Bowen & Silent Lambs, and their complaint/warning filed before the European Union .

    Part 6 - Reporter explains what a JC is, that one teen woman (Joelle) was forced to describe the violence she received, and later she commited suicide. Hidden camera captures one of the involved elders who refused to notify the authorities and prevented the girl and mother from doing so. WT spokesperson denies this and states the "policy is to report'; however, they showed the official 1995 WT letter to all congregations in Belgium it instructs to "report to the WT ." Clergy confidenciality is a loophole in Belgium to not report to police. WT Belgium denies a single case of pedophile in their ranks; children survivors of sexual abuse were interviewed.

    Part 7 - Thi sparticular victim did go to the police, and received the displeasure of the elders for 'staining the image' of the JW congregation. Most of the ex-JW interviewed have rebuilt their lives.

  • skeeter1
    skeeter1

    In the thread I posted, I did not notice the date of the watchtower.org article. It was written years before the above documentary. So, it was not in response to it or to other recent events. I guess the Watchtower has been dodging the misquote bullets for while....

  • Gladring
    Gladring

    Thanks for that skeeter!

    Hi Wobble. Just been keeping our heads down and really enjoying life. Haven't been online much at all lately. Had a great Xmas and New Year, lots of fun.

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