Wikipedia--Justin Martyr

by glenster 3 Replies latest watchtower bible

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  glenster

  If anyone knows how to contribute to or edit a Wikipedia article, you might
  take a look at the Wikipedia article on Justin Martyr. It seems to have been
  done by one of the JWs:

  "Justin sees the Logos as a separate being from God and subordinate to him."
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justin_Martyr#Doctrine_of_the_logos

  It seems to want the history books to be re-written to credit Martyr as the
  inventor of Arianism. Martyr had a mainstream view about the Son:

  Justin Martyr taught that no being assisted God with creation. (Adversus
  Haereses (Book II, Chapter 2))
  http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0103202.htm

  "Therefore these words testify explicitly that He [Christ] is witnessed to by
  Him who established these things, as deserving to be worshipped, as God and as
  Christ."
  ("Dialog of Justin with Trypho, a Jew," chap.63)

  "But both Him, and the Son (who came forth from Him and taught us these
  things, and the host of the other good angels who follow and are made like to
  Him), and the prophetic Spirit, we worship and adore."
  ("First Apology," 6)

  "Worship God alone." "Whence to God alone we render worship."
  ("First Apology," 16 and 17)
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  Witness 007

  He was not as one sided as you think....he's view of Jesus was totally different to todays christians.
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  moshe

  Jesus made this doctrinal mess, by being ambiguous and not engraving his teachings in stone- no, he trusted the oral telegrapgh and dreams and visions to Paul and others, instead of having eyewitnesses write down what happened. He put Judas in charge of the moneybox, but he didn't think it was important to have a real secretary write down what really happened.
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  glenster

  
  "He was not as one sided as you think."

  All I'm focusing on is something everyone would agree on--that Martyr didn't
  teach the Son was both created and not created. The focus of my site is the
  efforts of the JW leaders to feign exclusiveness, and they give Martyr as
  supporting their stance of the Son as created Michael. I'm considering the basic
  mainstream view as meaning the Son was not a created being separate from God,
  and that Martyr taught the basic mainstream view in that regard (regardless of
  any distinctive explanations Martyr may have used).

  Either the separate created or not created views gives the Logos as distinct,
  but if the Wikipedia portrayal of Martyr were correct, Martyr would have taught
  to not worship the Son since Martyr taught to only worship the one God (as did
  1st cent. Jewish monotheism vs. worship of a main god through lesser gods), but
  he taught to worship the Father, Son, and Spirit--the mainstream idea of the Son
  not being a separate created being.

  If the Wikipedia article were correct, Martyr would have taught that a
  separate created being helped God create everything, but he taught that no other
  being helped God do that yet everything was created through the Son--the
  mainstream idea of the Son not being a separate created being, etc.
  http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0103202.htm

  It's not a big deal--there are other Internet articles about Martyr I can use.
  It's just that I replace the dead links at my site now and then, and this is the
  1st time I've had a Wikipedia article get altered by a POV. Someone that knows
  how to contribute to Wikipedia might take a look.